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Post by quincannon on Jul 11, 2015 16:04:42 GMT -6
I would go in from the southwest on a northeasterly axis I think, with a fairly small detachment focused on mischief among the horseflesh. My point of departure would be near the present gravel pit on the southwestern ridge line, that Tom and AZ visited a couple of weeks ago west of I90 and directly southwest of the southernmost circle.
How would I plug them? Would not bother. I would let the Indians plug them for me. Some would try and use them I think, but Indians do not like traffic jams any more than you and I, and I suspect most would find the northern route as a better alternative. Personally I don't care how they go. I care about what little they could take with them if I brought the warriors to battle on the western side of that village, close in, with horses running all over the place. Not much I would expect.
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Post by welshofficer on Jul 11, 2015 17:16:16 GMT -6
QC,
I think I agree, too many gaps to plug with available force.
Although I might mischievously send a small battalion to show themselves on Battle Ridge, to ensure the escapees swing north down the valley...
The problem of course, if GAC holes up and uses the 25th for recon, is that the battle probably takes place further down the valley on the 26th.
WO
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Post by quincannon on Jul 11, 2015 17:29:46 GMT -6
Maybe, maybe not. I read somewhere, can't cite the source off hand, that the Indians planned to move on the 26th. Of course I also read somewhere that they planned to attack Custer on the 26th. I don't give this latter a heck of a lot of credibility.
If they did plan to move though, that might have been the gift to Custer that keeps on giving. Please in my next life may I be given such an opportunity to catch a column on the move in an administrative posture.
I would think they probably would be wearing out their welcome on that patch by the 26th, and starting a northward move would to me sound logical.
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Post by tubman13 on Jul 11, 2015 19:40:28 GMT -6
I would go in from the southwest on a northeasterly axis I think, with a fairly small detachment focused on mischief among the horseflesh. My point of departure would be near the present gravel pit on the southwestern ridge line, that Tom and AZ visited a couple of weeks ago west of I90 and directly southwest of the southernmost circle. How would I plug them? Would not bother. I would let the Indians plug them for me. Some would try and use them I think, but Indians do not like traffic jams any more than you and I, and I suspect most would find the northern route as a better alternative. Personally I don't care how they go. I care about what little they could take with them if I brought the warriors to battle on the western side of that village, close in, with horses running all over the place. Not much I would expect. I think outstanding, but you need to see for yourself. Proper recon would have put this spot into consideration.
Regards, Tom
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Post by tubman13 on Jul 11, 2015 19:43:05 GMT -6
QC, I think I agree, too many gaps to plug with available force. Although I might mischievously send a small battalion to show themselves on Battle Ridge, to ensure the escapees swing north down the valley... The problem of course, if GAC holes up and uses the 25th for recon, is that the battle probably takes place further down the valley on the 26th. WO The Na's had been moving north, that would be where more water and graze would have been.
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Post by quincannon on Jul 11, 2015 19:53:30 GMT -6
I don't like the idea of even a smallish battalion over on the eastern area. You can't communicate with them, and while there is advantage to what you say Justin, I think the majority will follow the watercourse as Tom indicates. The risk in that case is not justified by potential reward.
If he (Custer) had a larger force then yes, with part on Battle Ridge, displayed boldly, and yet another force, larger than the first on Battle Ridge extension in the event some opportunity unforeseen presents itself.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 19:57:46 GMT -6
I don't like the idea of even a smallish battalion over on the eastern area. You can't communicate with them, and while there is advantage to what you say Justin, I think the majority will follow the watercourse as Tom indicates. The risk in that case is not justified by potential reward. If he (Custer) had a larger force then yes, with part on Battle Ridge, displayed boldly, and yet another force, larger than the first on Battle Ridge extension in the event some opportunity unforeseen presents itself. Hey Queeniecannon, rough day for you. First the moderator turns on you and now the highly respected Fred.....keep it up buddy!! Look forward to more of your comic gold tomorrow.
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Post by Beth on Jul 11, 2015 21:30:14 GMT -6
I don't like the idea of even a smallish battalion over on the eastern area. You can't communicate with them, and while there is advantage to what you say Justin, I think the majority will follow the watercourse as Tom indicates. The risk in that case is not justified by potential reward. If he (Custer) had a larger force then yes, with part on Battle Ridge, displayed boldly, and yet another force, larger than the first on Battle Ridge extension in the event some opportunity unforeseen presents itself. I still think that a couple rockets into the pony herds would have scattered the ponies and caused the NA to #$%@ themselves. Too bad they fell out of use.
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Post by quincannon on Jul 11, 2015 21:33:05 GMT -6
Please don't tell that to the Field Artillery Beth. Today we have a system that would eliminate those ponies a grid square at a time, and they are just modern versions of the Congreve rocket
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Post by Beth on Jul 11, 2015 22:09:29 GMT -6
Please don't tell that to the Field Artillery Beth. Today we have a system that would eliminate those ponies a grid square at a time, and they are just modern versions of the Congreve rocket If they are modern Congreves they are using a whole lot of electronics to keep them stable. I knew I should have prefaced that to between after the Civil War to until around Goddard's time at the turn of the century. They would have made great shock and awe weapons against NA though and I am sure that sometimes scaring the crap out of an enemy is very effective. Especially when they are feeling safe and secure. The biggest difference between a Congreve and modern rockets is that you really had no idea which way a Congreve would go and it was just as likely to go into your line as your enemies. They had no stability .It was basically an explosive on a stick.. Once they learned to have some ability to aim and control thanks to fins, center of mass and--well rocket science, they became an effective weapon.
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Post by quincannon on Jul 11, 2015 22:25:31 GMT -6
I think our modern FA is a little better than that. The gunners wet their fingers and stick them up into the wind before they say fire. Very sophisticated process.
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Post by mac on Jul 11, 2015 22:37:31 GMT -6
Fireworks have not been available for many years in my state. Good thing for public health. Amazing I survived some of the escapades we got up to with "penny bungers" and rockets. Mainly we used the above launch method. Often not so good for the neighbours! Great memories though.
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Post by quincannon on Jul 11, 2015 22:43:34 GMT -6
An MLRS or HIMARS is a damned big firecracker Mac. The neighbors would definitely object.
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Post by Beth on Jul 11, 2015 22:44:29 GMT -6
I think our modern FA is a little better than that. The gunners wet their fingers and stick them up into the wind before they say fire. Very sophisticated process. We do that at launch sites too. Except hubby, He marches to a different drummer. Have Weather Station, will travel.
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Post by mac on Jul 11, 2015 22:52:59 GMT -6
If I had that kind of stuff there would have been no neighbours to worry about. My father was not happy about the fate of our letter box. I felt his wrath. Memories
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