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Post by wild on Oct 1, 2011 1:25:26 GMT -6
Kanipe was photographed all over the battlefield with the late lamented Bobo's widow in tow. A very bold thing to do to parade over the graves of one's fallen comrades if you had betrayed them.
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Post by quincannon on Oct 1, 2011 8:09:11 GMT -6
DC: I am afraid that Mrs Nash is unknown to me. I don't know the story or understand the message being sent here.
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Post by Dark Cloud on Oct 1, 2011 8:18:46 GMT -6
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Post by quincannon on Oct 1, 2011 8:38:05 GMT -6
It appears that Don't Ask, Don't Tell preceeded the 1990's. I am somehow not surprised. On the other hand you could look at it as the platoon of laundresses supporting the 7th Cavalry was an equal opportunity workplace.
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Post by bc on Oct 1, 2011 9:35:39 GMT -6
You can probably find someone who says - I think Mother Teresa was a blackjack dealer in Vegas. When you set out to question the character of an historical figure you better start with something more than - I think. Yeah, her and those oriental dealers know how to take your money. I never went to a table with one and if one rotated in, I got up and left. bc
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Post by El Crab on Oct 1, 2011 16:12:59 GMT -6
DC: I am afraid that Mrs Nash is unknown to me. I don't know the story or understand the message being sent here. SotMS also covers the Noonan/Nash story. Oddly, Noonan was Custer's orderly at one point, at least on the day Custer got his grizzly. He is the enlisted man in the photos with Custer, the bear, Bloody Knife and Ludlow.
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Post by Dark Cloud on Oct 1, 2011 19:45:42 GMT -6
Why 'oddly?' Scheduled duty. Or did Custer have a force field around him that normally prevented lesser men to be within his aura?
One of the issues here is would it be possible for a guy not to know he was bonking another dude? Dubious, but possible. There are all sorts of ugly women with facial hair. Desperation has its power.
And more to the point, the low end prostitutes of the day in New York and London, I've read (um....a lot), did tricks quick in the ally either orally or bending over. Cheaper. It's not impossible that young soldiers from the farms or cities who'd only experienced that - IF that - could be confused if drunk or just ignorant. Or dumb as a post, but just saying. It's quite possible if not probable they were not homosexual, just ignorant as hell.
In Nash's case, there were periods of okayness before a husband left, and Noonan killed himself rather than desert. He may have been utterly at sea and, although I laughed as much as anyone when I read it in SOTMS, it might not be - entirely - justified.
In my youth we were told, in seriousness by those in authority, that the reason women couldn't throw overhand was because their joints were different or just their arms or just overall couldn't do what men do. Turns out they can, but they have less muscle and are generally smaller. But watch the cutoff throws from the outfield on some of the top female softball teams and be scared. Very.
If so in the 1950's, imagine the bags of misinformation about earlier.
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Post by wild on Oct 2, 2011 0:29:00 GMT -6
One of the issues here is would it be possible for a guy not to know he was bonking another dude? Au contraire. The issue here was would it be possible for the regiment not to know that Custer was bonking a dude. Noonan was to Nash as Superman was to Clark Kent?
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Post by El Crab on Oct 2, 2011 15:47:45 GMT -6
Why 'oddly?' Scheduled duty. Or did Custer have a force field around him that normally prevented lesser men to be within his aura? Odd because so few photographs exist of enlisted men. Yet here is one of this man, who we know about due to a sordid backstory.
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Post by El Crab on Oct 2, 2011 15:49:53 GMT -6
One of the issues here is would it be possible for a guy not to know he was bonking another dude?Au contraire. The issue here was would it be possible for the regiment not to know that Custer was bonking a dude. Noonan was to Nash as Superman was to Clark Kent? Uh... what?!
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Post by El Crab on Oct 3, 2011 18:20:28 GMT -6
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Post by bc on Oct 3, 2011 22:41:23 GMT -6
Well it was nice of that bear to come up and get caught going through the trash can behind the tent. Anyone know what the deal is with the elk/elk antlers behind the guys and to the right of the tent? Maybe it was a bear kill and that was how they got the bear. Or maybe it was bear bait with or without strychnine.
bc
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Post by El Crab on Oct 3, 2011 23:17:36 GMT -6
Well it was nice of that bear to come up and get caught going through the trash can behind the tent. Anyone know what the deal is with the elk/elk antlers behind the guys and to the right of the tent? Maybe it was a bear kill and that was how they got the bear. Or maybe it was bear bait with or without strychnine. bc Well, it's probably one of the many game animals Custer shot during his time in the West. I thought it might be the elk in the picture below, but it doesn't seem quite right. But I believe that elk was bagged during the same expedition as the grizzly (so says the photo title). That being the Black Hills Expedition of 1874.
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Post by wild on Oct 3, 2011 23:57:40 GMT -6
What is it about Custer?He is always in a sitting/kneeling/lying pose for photos never looking at the camera. Was he a gunner eyed runt? In that photo with the bear, has he got the beast lying across his lap? Is that Mrs Nash standing in the background beside the tent?
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Post by Yan Taylor on Oct 4, 2011 7:59:34 GMT -6
Richard; If it is Mrs Nash, maybe she wants a new Bear Rug to have in front of the fire place. Looks like he is saying ''don’t just sit there, get this Bear off me’’.
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