The Ford D Sector

[Yan Taylor]

Ok chaps, here is the crack.

Here is a recent copy of the Ford D area, I have tried to emulate the rivers path from around 1876.



If anyone wants to use it as a guide please be my guest.

Catch you all later as the family’s round for the bank holiday.

Ian.

[quincannon]

Great view. Great angle

Chris. Could you work your magic on this and put a red X at the bridge. and another one where the 1876 river course is close by the gravel pit as it loops around from the south to start its westward arc.. That will define the probable ford(s) limits and we can go from there

Notice how you can see those cuts into the bluff at the right hand side of the picture. Those are Ford(s) C Some kind of marker there would be helpful as well

A little caution. That view as it goes from the river to LSH is a little deceptive. Notice cemetery ridge.

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May 3, 2014 11:55:35 GMT -6 quincannon said:

Great view. Great angle

Chris. Could you work your magic on this and put a red X at the bridge. and another one where the 1876 river course is close by the gravel pit as it loops around from the south to start its westward arc.. That will define the probable ford(s) limits and we can go from there

Notice how you can see those cuts into the bluff at the right hand side of the picture. Those are Ford(s) C Some kind of marker there would be helpful as well

A little caution. That view as it goes from the river to LSH is a little deceptive. Notice cemetery ridge.

Chuck, I'll do my best.  I was going to work the goose egg ford locations again ( I'm on rev 3) - finally able to use the software properly and get decent transparent eggs but the end result came off as somewhat cartoonish. Just a bit reluctant to post them.....

Ian,

Please excuse me while I mangle yet another image!

Best,

c.

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Wondering about timber and it blocking view (if Custer got close to the D area). There was enough to give reasonable concealment for Reno upstream... why should it have been a lot different at the D area?

[Colt45]

Great image. You can definitely see where the river went in 1876, even without the helpful blue line. The far left hand X would be where I would assume mounted NAs eventually crossed to provide pressure from the west and north. You can see that's a natural highway that leads to LSH.

[quincannon]

That is splendid Chris. Absolutely splendid.

Good point about the timber. I see no reason to assume that it was much different than any other place along the river line. That will factor into all our discussions about D. Can't help but.

Notice how that river pinches on just above the lower X. I would not like that worth a damn if I had to cross at any place in the Ford D area, intending to assault the north side of the villages. Gives me the tactical Willies.

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Chuck,
Ian supplies great material and, as do you, analysis.  

Now if we can wheedle, cajole and otherwise entice Ian to show me how he got that image, I'll say nice things about Tom for 24, 12, 6, well, a few minutes anyway! Plus I'll have a lot more accuracy in goose egg ford identification (at least better perspective) - I'm guessing Ian's river line is close to the McElfresh map.  Seem to recall that map had a note about depicting 1876 river flow.

Best,

c.

PS Has anyone heard from Fred?

c.

[tubman13]

Since I am totally unread, on this battle, don't know a crow scout from a black winged thingy, am an alcoholic,
,not to mention part of the totally unwashed proletariat, who happens to belong to the NRA, I appreciate you allowing me to come along on this Ford D excursion. DC, I realize that was a bit of a run on sentence, please forgive. I think the graphics are great, Ian, thanks for the detail Chris, The two x marks are a bit confusing as that is the way I learned to sign my name. I will buckle my seatbelt and hold on as we move forward!
Regards,
Tom

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=XId-xFT9Txc

[tubman13]

Nobody!

[welshofficer]

Ian,

Fantastic stuff. Do we know roughly where Kellogg's corpse was found, or is that demanding the impossible...?

WO

[quincannon]

Don't know about Fred, and I also expected Montrose to check in before now. I will be staying close to home for the next couple of weeks now that Mrs QC is home. She can't move well, so I will be busy, but I will find time to call him Monday or Tuesday. I have to budget about an hour each time I do.

WO: I am pretty sure that Kellogg was found in that triangle of land formed by the pathway down Cemetery Ravine, that sqiggle of the gulch that looks like a snake and the bluffs Reference the G in general area of ford c. It is marked on the Bonafides map but I do not have it at hand at the moment. It is fairly near the ford which Gibbon used which is part of the Ford C complex.

[welshofficer]

QC

With you. Is there a break in the bluffs just south (i.e. to the right in the photo, at the bottom of the snake) of where the current and former river bed cross over?

I once found this diagram, but it doesn't make allowance for the river bed changing.

Ford D.bmp (110.3 KB)

WO

[quincannon]

WO: I was not able to open your link but it appears there is as there is a break in the tree line. That is probably the northernmost of the Ford C's I would think.

One really great thing about this photo is that it shows just how really bad Ford C's are for east-west travel, and how good they are for west to east.

Really to bad that Custer did not have this photo. I could be listening to Wagner instead of LBH.

[welshofficer]

QC,

Fords C & D - let me try again, does this work?

Yes, it certainly is better to be the side on the west. Short of GAC beating the NAs to every river crossing and they having to attack him for some bizarre reason.....

WO