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Post by glenbow on Apr 27, 2005 16:05:52 GMT -6
I'm looking for information on the Hunkpapa Lakota leader, Crow King, or Kangi Yatapi, and wondering if he has any living descendants. He died at Standing Rock in 1884, and I've learned that he had two daughters who survived him. The eldest, Mary, died around 1889, and the youngest, Emma, married a man named Paul Cournoyer, and moved with their two children to Armour South Dakota after his premature death, sometime around 1906. She died in 1908 in Armour, and is buried there. A daughter, Hermine, married a man named Dewey Drapeau and apparently moved to California with their young son sometime after 1932. Drapeau was a musician and bit part actor in Hollywood westerns, and appeared in the 1956 production of Around the World in Eighty Days. He died in California in 1978, and a surviving granddaughter named Carla Price was listed on his death certificate. Can anyone fill in some missing pieces from the family history?
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Post by Ephriam Dickson on Apr 27, 2005 21:30:39 GMT -6
This will not help you much in tracking down living relatives, however, you might be interested to know more about Crow King's family.
At the time of his surrender in 1881, his family consisted of his wife, Red White Buffalo Cow (Ptesan Luta win), age 26, and his two daughters: Weasel (Hintunkasan), age 5, [who was later known as Mary] and Red Deer Kid (Tingle ska luta) age 1 [later known as Emma].
Ephriam
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Post by glenbow on Apr 28, 2005 4:36:56 GMT -6
I have been searching for this information for years, but assumed that there were no official surrender records in existance from Ft. Buford in 1881. Where did you manage to find this information? Many thanks, Ephriam! I have also tried to locate enlistment records for the Indian Police at Standing Rock from 1881 to 1884, as I have Read that Crow King was a member of that force. Interestingly, his wife at the time of his death was a woman named Anna Tokeyahinanpewin (Woman Who Comes Out First?). They were both baptized and married at St. Peters Church, Ft. Yates in 1883, and Crow King was given the name Joachim. A witness at their wedding was listed as Tasina Luta (Red Blanket?). I've since learned that this man may have been a Minniconjou who later went to live at the Cheyenne River Agency. Does anyone know anything more about him?
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Post by Diane Merkel on Jun 2, 2006 14:22:43 GMT -6
I just received this query from a website visitor who would also like to know more about Crow King: Can you give me any information on the death of Crow King? I know he was at Fort Buford 1881 Dakota Territory--then what happened? Death Date 1894....burial site? Thanks in advance! Diane |
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Post by mysticcrow on Jun 3, 2006 7:19:46 GMT -6
good morning as it is here....I am a Crow King fan as well...I first saw his picture in 1975 and have been hunting down his life since. Yesterday, I was looking at pictures of him on the Library of Contress Site and I found the standard 3/4 picture of him standing with a blanket around him (why?) and then I found a picture of him sitting and his hand is bleeding and there is blood on the calvery uniform and walls-it appears fresh....the expression his face appears unhappy. I am wondering now if all these pictures were taken on the same day in 1881 at Fort Buford--the standard picture there is no blood on the uniform sleeve and his expression is more of amusement. Did they force these natives to "pose"? Obviousely something happened between the photo shots? Anybody know. I thank you other
enthusiasts and the life information you have contributed. I will keep searching ....I am so thrilled I'm not the only person with this curiosity--until later ..... mysticcrow
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Post by Diane Merkel on Jun 3, 2006 21:24:02 GMT -6
The following article is courtesy of historynut1876. Thanks!  |
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Post by Diane Merkel on Jun 3, 2006 22:04:21 GMT -6
This photo of Crow King is also courtesy of historynut1876:  |
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Post by mort aux vaches on Jun 6, 2006 8:21:47 GMT -6
Yesterday, I was looking at pictures of him on the Library of Contress Site and I found the standard 3/4 picture of him standing with a blanket around him (why?) and then I found a picture of him sitting and his hand is bleeding and there is blood on the calvery uniform and walls-it appears fresh....the expression his face appears unhappy. I am wondering now if all these pictures were taken on the same day in 1881 at Fort Buford--the standard picture there is no blood on the uniform sleeve and his expression is more of amusement. If you talk about the photos available on the LOC-page what appears to you as blood is just the bad quality of the photo. Good imagination though. |
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Post by mysticcrow on Jun 11, 2006 9:02:00 GMT -6
NOT IN THIS CASE. THE PHOTO DEPICTS BLOOD. IT IS NOT A BAD PHOTO. IT IS VERY CLEAR.
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Post by historynut1876 on Jun 11, 2006 9:30:21 GMT -6
good morning as it is here....I am a Crow King fan as well...I first saw his picture in 1975 and have been hunting down his life since. Yesterday, I was looking at pictures of him on the Library of Contress Site and I found the standard 3/4 picture of him standing with a blanket around him (why?) and then I found a picture of him sitting and his hand is bleeding and there is blood on the calvery uniform and walls-it appears fresh....the expression his face appears unhappy. I am wondering now if all these pictures were taken on the same day in 1881 at Fort Buford--the standard picture there is no blood on the uniform sleeve and his expression is more of amusement. Did they force these natives to "pose"? Obviousely something happened between the photo shots? Anybody know. I thank you other
enthusiasts and the life information you have contributed. I will keep searching ....I am so thrilled I'm not the only person with this curiosity--until later ..... mysticcrow When I first read your original post I thought it was strange that you chose purple text. It's quite hard to read (as witnessed above). My interest was also sparked to see the supposed photo of Crow King bleeding. So I went to the Library of Congress Web site and believe I found the photo in question. It is clearly black splotches on the photo and not blood. But thinking you were sincere in your interest of Crow King I offered you an old newspaper article about Crow King and included a colorized image of him. I'm not looking for any thanks for doing so (it's really not that big a deal), but I find it amazing that your next post is only to keep up your silly argument that it is blood in the photo and totally disregard that anyone here tried to offer you something about your supposed interest in Crow King. Again, I am not looking for a pat on the back from you or anyone else. I just find it odd that information relevant to your interest has no appeal to you while imagined blood is front and center. |
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Post by grahamew on Jun 11, 2006 10:05:56 GMT -6
Maybe you could post the picture. Scan it and send it to Diane as a jpeg and ask her to place it in one of your posts then we can all see.
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Post by Dietmar on Jun 11, 2006 15:16:12 GMT -6
Is this the photo??  |
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Post by tokaouspa on Feb 9, 2007 15:14:30 GMT -6
Lots of descendents of Crow King on Standing Rock. Contact the wife of Darrell Bullhead at Ft. Yates, or Victor Red Fish / Brave Thunder in McLaughlin, SD. A good start -- but you will find many more descendents there (standing rock).
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Post by Dietmar on Aug 15, 2007 7:54:39 GMT -6
I always thought Crow King was only photographed once... after his surrender in 1881. But now look at this, isn´t it an impressive photo?  photo by Zalmon Gilbert, Mandan, ND (from Beinecke Library) Dietmar |
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Post by grahamew on Aug 15, 2007 10:43:24 GMT -6
Tremendous image. I have some other Gilberts on my PC and I'd assumed he was working later than this. Obvioulsy not!
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