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Post by clw on May 11, 2008 16:43:39 GMT -6
The boys were just being boys with all the idiocy that entails. You think that's one thing you'll NEVER miss. But... they've got me feeling kinda nostolgic.
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Post by Montana Bab on May 11, 2008 18:06:26 GMT -6
Back to the topic . . . . Jari is hesitant to join the boards because he doesn't think his English is good enough, but he provided this information: A friend took the cover photo at Weir Point in 2001 at 125th anniversary. The name of the book "Kirjoitettuna tuuleen" means "Written in the Wind." Bob Reece will do an email interview about Jari, his book, and his interest in the battle and American history for the Friends website. The book will be published on June 25, 2008. Diane, I found a Finn website on equines while doing research for Horse Breeds of the world, so I've had a little experience with trying to decypher that language. Wow, was that tough. So I appreciate that Jari can speak English AT ALL! His language is just the toughest! I would love to see his book done in English. Montana
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Post by Diane Merkel on May 11, 2008 23:15:15 GMT -6
Billy, the idiocy is fine among friends. Jari didn't deserve the insults, especially since I asked him for permission to post his covers. Who from a non-English speaking country is going to want to post anything here now? I thought I was doing a good thing, but I ended up wanting to blow up the board.
Melani, Jari's English is very good. I have no trouble understanding him at all. He didn't understand a lot of the comments which, as he said, is probably good. He'll do fine with his interview by Bob Reece.
Montana, it may be translated into English, but there's nothing firm yet.
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Post by Scout on May 12, 2008 4:24:59 GMT -6
Jari's book does look very interesting. I wish we had more information available in English. Bob always does good interviews that's for sure.
Anybody keeping up with the 'Harry Potter' lawsuit going on in Britain? This is a very interesting story in the world of publishing and can affect hundreds of authors in the future if Ms. Rowlings gets her way.
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Post by elisabeth on May 12, 2008 5:20:41 GMT -6
Haven't been following it much, and hadn't really thought about the implications -- but yes, OMG, if "fair use" were no longer to apply, I guess all LBH writers would be confined to quoting/using only those books so ancient as to be out of copyright. Scary stuff.
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Post by Dark Cloud on May 12, 2008 7:00:14 GMT -6
Fair use would still apply in those nations that so honor it. The issue is the definition of 'fair use.' I'm totally in Rowling's camp, although I never got further than page three on any of her books before it was 'borrowed' by some friend's kid, at which point it vanished altogether. I'm not a fan, but anyone who got the world's kids reading - and enjoying reading, and doing what the last century of lousy books and school systems could not do - has my undying regard.
The lampreys who propose to make money off her creation of an entire universe of characters and plots and backstory have no right to do so without either her permission or profit. That they ran a fan site was their choice and isn't a qualification: that was free and just documented conversations and opinions. I cannot imagine who this would hurt who wasn't engaged in theft.
What is laughingly called 'fan fiction' could be totalled if that was a source of income, but apparently it rarely is. Tolkien's sales would be immeasurably higher if his work hadn't been stolen and printed by thieves in various nations, including my own. I cannot imagine what the objection is from supposed authors, each of whom would be hysterical if someone profited off their stolen ideas and work.
Also, consider that stare decisis is a bigger concern now that the whole technology of how people receive and pay for content, literary or otherwise, is changing, and from a strictly legal point of view they want to clamp down at the source. You can always relax and grant permission one on one. It's difficult to protect your work in the wild west of the internet without solid legal ground beneath.
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Post by crzhrs on May 12, 2008 11:16:32 GMT -6
Yes, yes, yes, good humor . . .
Jeeze. Great for getting the book published.
The most I've gotten published was my photo on the Post Office lobby. Still haven't found me, however!
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Post by crzhrs on May 12, 2008 11:17:49 GMT -6
Jari:
<Jari is hesitant to join the boards because he doesn't think his English is good enough>
Join the crowd. You'll be a perfect fit!
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Post by markland on May 13, 2008 0:33:28 GMT -6
Fair use would still apply in those nations that so honor it. The issue is the definition of 'fair use.' I'm totally in Rowling's camp, although I never got further than page three on any of her books before it was 'borrowed' by some friend's kid, at which point it vanished altogether. I'm not a fan, but anyone who got the world's kids reading - and enjoying reading, and doing what the last century of lousy books and school systems could not do - has my undying regard. The lampreys who propose to make money off her creation of an entire universe of characters and plots and backstory have no right to do so without either her permission or profit. That they ran a fan site was their choice and isn't a qualification: that was free and just documented conversations and opinions. I cannot imagine who this would hurt who wasn't engaged in theft. What is laughingly called 'fan fiction' could be totalled if that was a source of income, but apparently it rarely is. Tolkien's sales would be immeasurably higher if his work hadn't been stolen and printed by thieves in various nations, including my own. I cannot imagine what the objection is from supposed authors, each of whom would be hysterical if someone profited off their stolen ideas and work. Also, consider that stare decisis is a bigger concern now that the whole technology of how people receive and pay for content, literary or otherwise, is changing, and from a strictly legal point of view they want to clamp down at the source. You can always relax and grant permission one on one. It's difficult to protect your work in the wild west of the internet without solid legal ground beneath. Sheesh, I think I need to take a couple of aspirin and go back to bed because I actually agree with DC. What's the world coming to? Billy
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Post by Scout on May 13, 2008 5:21:06 GMT -6
I don't agree with him at all so I don't require any aspirins.
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Post by Dark Cloud on May 13, 2008 8:46:02 GMT -6
It's come to the point, Markland, where you have to read Donovan's book and face the painful realization you agree with me about that, as well. Being the case, you'll need to ignore otc medicine and go right to the IV unit.
So........Scout favors theft of intellectual property?
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Post by Scout on May 13, 2008 9:56:05 GMT -6
Yes, very much in favor of it, but of course, in your case there's nothing to steal.
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Post by Dark Cloud on May 13, 2008 11:08:19 GMT -6
There's no market for grads of Third Grade? I've been misinformed. What a wasted year THAT was, then.
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Post by markland on May 14, 2008 8:57:49 GMT -6
It's come to the point, Markland, where you have to read Donovan's book and face the painful realization you agree with me about that, as well. Being the case, you'll need to ignore otc medicine and go right to the IV unit. So........Scout favors theft of intellectual property? I'll get around to it eventually. It is somewhere in a overly large stack of "Books to be read" that for some reason does not seem to be decreasing in size despite extraordinary efforts to reduce the pile. I currently have three non-fiction and one fiction book going; the three non-fiction are Civil War related (LaFantasie's Twilight on Little Round Top; Rhea's To the North Anna River and Walsh's Damage Them All You Can) and are excellent books by the way. Whenever this century I finish those, my next pick-up will be Marching With the First Nebraska: A Civil War Diary by August Scherneckau. So as you may notice, Custer is not in the running yet. Of course, we will be taking almost three weeks off this summer to go to the beach in NC (no internet access!) so I should be able to whittle it down to a mere mountain rather than Mt. Everest by the time that is complete. By the way, those interested in the West's military history with a focus on the Southwest may be interested in a book Eric W. recommended, Cavalry Yellow and Infantry Blue by Constance Altshuler. I finally broke down and paid the bucks for it to Alibris yesterday so I really look forward to it. Here is an Amazon review by someone named Steve (Wilk perhaps?): "Although billed as officers in Arizona, this book actually covers the service of these men well beyond their time in Arizona. It serves as a great counterpart to Heitman's register of army officers (even correcting some of his dates) and gives us a fascinating glimpse at the lives of these men. It's a shame that similar data doesn't exist for enlisted men, but if you're interested in the history of the Frontier Army (in or out of Arizona) you should pick up this book." Be good or at least be careful, Billy
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on May 14, 2008 10:36:54 GMT -6
I had to google the Latin: "Those whom God wills to destroy he first deprives of their senses...." Good self-definition, Fred.
Diane, Remember your Euripides, as the Latin is a translation from the original Greek which translates more familiarly as "Whom God wishes to destroy, he first makes mad"Euripides also wrote "Men are men, they needs must err"
I cannot begin to envisage the monumental task Jari had in translating into Finnish the English source material he needed for his book. For that alone he commands our respect. Good luck with the book Jari, may it sell well. Hunk
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