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Post by quincannon on Jan 20, 2014 17:24:30 GMT -6
I don't like it Billy. You going to tell me it's tough as well. This was a perfectly legitimate and interesting thread until this troublemaking pieceofshit entered into it as he does all and attempts to disrupt legitimate discussion and insert his own agenda
Carry on Helford. It's your thread. Direct it as you please, and if Billy does not like it he is free to start his own.
You have been around here long enough Billy to know the score with this creep. Grow a bacx bone. And, don't you ever single me out again. If you have a beef in this your beef is with all. If you drive Helford from this board by your intended actions I swear to you that you will come to regret it. She has offered more than you have with your occasional hit and runs.
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Post by Margaret on Jan 20, 2014 17:36:39 GMT -6
..On reflection, I would just like to say, in case this thread disappears off the radar... that I would like to thank Mrs Merkel so much for allowing us to have our way with it here, so to speak.... and I do apologise sincerely, if I have started a thread, in an area that it should not have been....
...some of my posts are a little unorthodox, tending to chat and ramble along, sometimes about a whole host of different things....
..not always suitable I think for a site like this.... I accept Mrs Merkel's decision.. whatever it may be... I sometimes feel as if I am learning another language here... so thank you once again... and good day to you all...
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Post by fred on Jan 20, 2014 18:02:08 GMT -6
I've requested that Diane either move or delete this thread from the Independent Research category. You know this whole thing is ridiculous. This is a perfectly legitimate subject for "Independent Research," and "helford" is one of the best posters anywhere. The problem lies with one miserable individual. If everyone chipped in and chose to ignore him, none of this would be going on. I will e-mail Diane myself: maybe she will solve the whole problem for us. Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by quincannon on Jan 20, 2014 18:09:31 GMT -6
Fred: I can certainly understand Billy's frustration. I too think what Helford has to offer is independent research. It is far more independent, and more in depth in this particular portion of the subject matter than I would ever wish to pursue. I do find it interesting, and certainly proves that one size does not fit all as most suppose.
I am more frustrated with continual repeated attacks on myself and others that wild sees fit to show complete disrespect for. I would support a complete banning of this person from this board, so we could get on with the business we come here to do without disruption.
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Post by wild on Jan 20, 2014 18:16:05 GMT -6
If everyone chipped in and chose to ignore him, none of this would be going on At least have the decency to state the charge Fred.
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Post by quincannon on Jan 20, 2014 18:23:25 GMT -6
Hopefully Ian the subject of neutrality of nations and that of Ireland in particular will never be mentioned on this board again. It is not what we come here for,, and if the subject should come up it is better dealt with in the general military history threads. About that Billy is quite correct. The ONLY agenda should be to delve into and learn about one battle, and all the things that contribute to the state of affairs and hostilities surrounding it.
I wish no quarrel with any man. Neither will I be pushed by any man ever. I have considered ignoring him. I have tried to do just that. The trouble is that ignoring him is not enough. He will persist, for all he is here for is to disrupt. His attitude toward all others insures he will never be accepted. He knows that, so what best he thinks, why to rob others of the enjoyment they find here.
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Post by fred on Jan 20, 2014 18:30:39 GMT -6
I can certainly understand Billy's frustration. Of course I understand Billy's frustration; it is no different than what "montrose" has been saying for so long. That is why I ignore "wild." If you, helford, Ian, and everyone else ignored him-- and I mean completely ignored him-- these boards would be a heck of a lot more interesting and a lot less crammed with these vituperative posts. Even DC has ignored him and I will tell you, that must take some will power!!!!!! Losing someone like "helford" would be a very great loss. These boards are already only a shadow of what they used to be and quite frankly, I miss all the input, especially from someone like Merkel. She used to contribute all the time, even as the moderator. "Wild" just pollutes things. Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by quincannon on Jan 20, 2014 18:34:31 GMT -6
Fred: I give you my word that his name will not be mentioned by me again, or any post of his responded to. It is just not worth it. I hope all will join in this effort. I think it futile, but we will see.
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Post by wild on Jan 20, 2014 18:40:57 GMT -6
turd ball Irish trouble maker I must say though your methods are far more effective than just calling him a lyingsackofshit, as I am prone to do The above is quimcannons first post on this thread. He refers to the Indians as hostile savage bosos and their women folk as squaws. The boards attention has been drawn to this incitment to race hatred. Is it any wonder he wants me banned. A sad day for the board if it tolerates such abuse and bans those who speak out against it.
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Post by wild on Jan 20, 2014 18:56:11 GMT -6
The military just cannot stand an alternative view. The board is a debating platform.All views if honestly held should have a place here. No one on this board has faced such a torrent of abuse such as quimcannon has thrown my way.Simply nothing has been sacred not my family not my country.Non stop day after day. Quimcannon is not able to debate.Everything is seen as confrontational.Even Billy has been threatened. I have just signed off on a most interesting debate with Helford.No problem enjoyable. Come to the board without your seargent Hartman persona and we can discuss the world and his wife.
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Post by Diane Merkel on Jan 20, 2014 19:01:11 GMT -6
I have wanted to run "wild" out of here many times, and he has promised an equal number of times to behave himself. I haven't gone through all of the pages of this thread yet, so I'm not sure what he has done this time, but I have always found him offensive at some level.
If I were to move it, Billy, where would you suggest?
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Post by fred on Jan 20, 2014 19:28:00 GMT -6
What a pleasure to see you here again, Diane. Too bad it is the usual nonsense. And by the way, I do not think the thread should be moved; it is a legitimate "Independent Research" subject, I believe. What should be moved or removed is... well, you are the decision-maker and you know it a lot better than I do.
Happy New Year, Diane.
Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by montrose on Jan 20, 2014 21:59:16 GMT -6
I do not have an issue with Wild or any other poster.
If you do not like a particular post, just move on.
Respectfully,
Will
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Post by Diane Merkel on Jan 20, 2014 22:09:15 GMT -6
Thank you, Fred!
I was in the middle of writing a reply when it suddenly disappeared. It's been so long since I attempted a long post that I forgot how annoying these boards can be.
To make a long reply short, I've read just the first page of this thread and find "wild" his typically annoying self. Unless someone wants to come to his defense, I will ban him 24 hours from now, something I should have done long ago.
Helford, I apologize for not communicating with you sooner. You seem like a wonderful, fresh voice on these boards, so I hope you will bear with us through this bump in the road. I don't recall if the original thread disclosed the source of the squaw/vagina controversy, but I was told some woman appeared on the old Oprah Winfrey television show and proclaimed the word squaw means vagina. The woman who told me that was outraged that I wasn't outraged by the use of the word. ["How would you like to be referred to as your body part?" she screamed through cyberspace.] Thank you for bringing some intellect and sanity to the controversy.
Happy New Year, all!
Diane
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Post by benteen on Jan 20, 2014 23:15:04 GMT -6
Thank you, Fred!
I was in the middle of writing a reply when it suddenly disappeared. It's been so long since I attempted a long post that I forgot how annoying these boards can be.
To make a long reply short, I've read just the first page of this thread and find "wild" his typically annoying self. Unless someone wants to come to his defense, I will ban him 24 hours from now, something I should have done long ago.
Helford, I apologize for not communicating with you sooner. You seem like a wonderful, fresh voice on these boards, so I hope you will bear with us through this bump in the road. I don't recall if the original thread disclosed the source of the squaw/vagina controversy, but I was told some woman appeared on the old Oprah Winfrey television show and proclaimed the word squaw means vagina. The woman who told me that was outraged that I wasn't outraged by the use of the word. ["How would you like to be referred to as your body part?" she screamed through cyberspace.] Thank you for bringing some intellect and sanity to the controversy.
Happy New Year, all!
Diane Diane, First let me say that I believe you are and have been a fine moderator. You let people say what they think. However I know I will raise some eyebrows, but I think it would be a mistake to ban Richard (Wild) from these boards. I am a newbie (A little les than 4 years) and I have seen this man be attacked along with his country constantly , and what I see is his defense of himself and his country. I have never sent him a PM, E-mail, or phone call and don't know him from a can of paint, but I think if you ban him you will be setting a precedent that we ban people that we don't agree with, and that is wrong . If there is a vote to ban him my vote is NO. Be Well Dan
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