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Post by quincannon on Sept 5, 2012 9:39:00 GMT -6
Jag: That's the moral to another story. Don't go to the county fair in Durosturnum.
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Post by jag on Sept 5, 2012 9:53:59 GMT -6
Jag: That's the moral to another story. Don't go to the county fair in Durosturnum. But it is one with a great moral story of --- defiance to widely venerated and celebrated tradition and of sacrifice. And I should add, about belief and which sacrifice was morally better.
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Post by quincannon on Sept 5, 2012 9:58:14 GMT -6
Or it could also mean thinking you are right can cost you your head. Always two persepectives to every story, but your point is well taken.
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Post by jag on Sept 5, 2012 10:07:00 GMT -6
Or it could also mean thinking you are right can cost you your head. Always two persepectives to every story, but your point is well taken. I think he knew, either way, he was a dead man. Just because we've only one account of this, didn't mean that others who refused weren't by example displayed at such festivals, harvest or otherwise in the city square or its equivalent. His choice was against popluar belief and made a statement venerated by moral others. I think I'll choose the same, thank you very much.
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Post by brenda56 on Sept 5, 2012 10:26:06 GMT -6
Or, as recently informed -
'one man's gratification is another woman's digression
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Post by jag on Sept 5, 2012 10:38:25 GMT -6
Or, as recently informed - 'one man's gratification is another woman's digression Brenda, sometimes as all men and women know, we have choices that aren't easy to make. There are those who aren't as informed who would willingly in ignorance sit upon the Kings throne, even it if was for a mere day and enjoy all the frivolities and festiveness the title granted him. And they still willingly do, to this very day. I desire no such title or its rewards. Because I've chosen a path dictated by long held law as to protocol and procedure makes that path the correct one to believe it should find solace of fact easier to discern.
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Post by brenda56 on Sept 5, 2012 12:00:27 GMT -6
Jag, You lost me there but that's fine by me. It was said 'tongue in cheek.
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Post by jag on Sept 5, 2012 12:17:38 GMT -6
Jag, You lost me there but that's fine by me. It was said 'tongue in cheek. Understood. My own reply configured in some ways the same.
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Post by wild on Sept 6, 2012 1:36:59 GMT -6
Ian Richard, I think that the fact Capt. Weir left first (and his Company D followed shortly after) without orders may make it look disorganised, Maj. Reno then sent Lt. Hare to find Col. Custer, Capt. Benteen followed with Companies H, K and M about 20 minutes later. But I agree with you over wounded men being carried in blankets, it must have been hell for them. Weir was Benteen's 2i/c and his troop part of Benteen's battalion. They were Benteen's responsibility.Yet he let them go and did nothing to recall them. Then Benteen himself with his troop takes off causing other troops to follow;none of this is planned or ordered. next comes the slow moving Mc Dougall with the wounded in blankets bringing up the rear. I think you have have a detailed list of times for troop movements.If there was a slow day on the board it might be interesting to list the distances and times between the rabble. Regards
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Post by AZ Ranger on Sept 6, 2012 7:23:48 GMT -6
Wild the pack train was always slow not sure of your point. Do you think it shouldn't move with rest of the troops?
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Post by wild on Sept 6, 2012 8:23:26 GMT -6
AZ Wild the pack train was always slow not sure of your point. Do you think it shouldn't move with rest of the troops?
Thanks to soldier Willy command and control had now broken down completely;so to be honest wirth you I have no idea under whose direction the bags were now operating. However by default the bags were now part of a fragmented body of troops moving onto a playing field dominated by the enemy. Part of the disorganisation of that body of troops was the difference in march pace between the rearward elements and the van. Of course the bags were going to move slower than the rest but that is a consideration which must be taken account of while in actual contact with the enemy. The bags could have joined the rest of the rabble on Weir point and been cut off when the retreat began.
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Post by Yan Taylor on Sept 6, 2012 8:30:31 GMT -6
Richard, the only times I have for the advance to Weir peaks are Grey’s, and I think I sent you a copy via PM a while ago, to speculate how long it would take to travel the distance from Reno hill to the peaks is something 1¼ miles, Grey worked it out to 20 minutes so as I am not Poirot I will have to stick with that.
Ian.
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