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Post by Dark Cloud on Nov 11, 2011 15:02:45 GMT -6
If your knowledge is limited to "a few research papers and book reviews," it doesn't sound like you've done any work at all.
It also doesn't sound like you're in the military, given their chemical animosity to this sort of thing, by which I mean having others do your work for you.
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Post by quincannon on Nov 11, 2011 17:06:48 GMT -6
If your knowledge is limited to research papers and book reviews then how would you know how to place any value on anything one might say here. We may very well be blowing smoke up you butt and you would have no way of knowing if any views rendered were well thought out and sincere, or if the person giving their views was some agenda driven clodhopper with an axe to grind. Do your homework. Read at least five different overall histories of the battle, or if you want to go more in depth about his entire career plan on spending a couple of years reading nothing but Custer.
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Post by montrose on Nov 11, 2011 17:27:30 GMT -6
Well, I think we should cut him some slack, Quincannon. This sounds like a military education level 4 thesis.
By the way your paper has how many case studies to evaluate 10 variables? Very ambitious, especially since the variables are hard to define.
On a scale of one to ten, how do you rate Dark Cloud for empathy?
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Post by benteen on Nov 11, 2011 17:33:57 GMT -6
LOL...LOL...LOL
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Post by quincannon on Nov 11, 2011 18:03:39 GMT -6
It seems our new friend has thought better of his question and removed it. Tough bunch this, but it does serve to remind one that you don't go into deep water without at least some knowledge of how to swim.
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Post by benteen on Nov 11, 2011 18:30:04 GMT -6
On a scale of one to ten, how do you rate Dark Cloud for empathy? Montrose, Sir, that is a classic, I'm still laughing. Colonel he seemed like a nice enough fella but I don't think it was the depth of the water that made him decide to be a land-lubber, but rather the sight of the Great White Shark By the way Happy Veterans Day Gentlemen. Be Well Dan
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Post by quincannon on Nov 11, 2011 18:41:57 GMT -6
Dan: I am sure he is a nice fellow, and I do wish he would come back, for he just might come to understand how very complicated this subject matter is.
I do believe though he was expecting Aunt Diana's Quilting Party and he found that it was more like a knife fight in a phone booth.
I would on a scale of 1 to 10 rate Dark Cloud's empathy at about a 99. For tact it would be 60 or so, but for getting to the point, and getting the message across without a hint of quibble, He is a 1+
And to you sir.
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Post by bc on Nov 11, 2011 20:03:49 GMT -6
Well he didn't last very long. And here I had him pegged as a West Point Senior. Didn't think a senior would quit and retreat this quick. Maybe he was only a junior? Give him another year of walking guard along Hangman's Hollow and maybe he will be back.
bc
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Post by quincannon on Nov 11, 2011 20:45:35 GMT -6
Norwich
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Post by Dark Cloud on Nov 11, 2011 21:57:56 GMT -6
See, there's a difference between Norwich and the military.
This did sound like a high school project, and under cover of being 'in the Military' (most in the military announce branch at least) he attempted to fool us to do work for him. The honor of a Norwich student, is it?
At least, he's a kid. keogh doesn't have that excuse.
Needed ketchup, but went down easy enough.
Update: been informed Norwich is a.....University, not a secondary school. Ah, but the originator of ROTC. This provides the linking thread.... From the brains that gave us Bill Rini.
Single malt, IV unit, stat! This is so depressing.
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Post by quincannon on Nov 11, 2011 23:22:43 GMT -6
Norwich at least at one time was the leading producer on Armor and Cavalry officers in the U S Army. More than West Point. I don't remember him saying that he had any connection with the military. Maybe I missed it but he has taken it down now so I can't check.
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Post by Dark Cloud on Nov 12, 2011 0:07:35 GMT -6
He had a second post up in Introductions, said he was 'in the Military' and really into military history, etc.
Do you remember that piece written by two military guys about the battle we discussed a year or so back? Their piece, with all its errors, read like it was put together this way. In any case this guy said he was doing a 'research paper' himself, if I correctly recall.
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Post by fred on Nov 12, 2011 6:39:47 GMT -6
He had a second post up in Introductions, said he was 'in the Military' and really into military history, etc. Looks like I missed something here! What was the beef? Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by quincannon on Nov 12, 2011 9:36:45 GMT -6
Fred: This fellow posted that he would appreciate us commenting on ten leadership qualities as they applied to George Custer, as background material for a research paper he was writting. He said in essence that he knew little about Custer save for a few research monographs and some book reviews.
DC: Yeah, I did see that. Just did not put the two together. It's probably best though that he got his shorts in a bind, but only for his own sake. It's like him buying a model rocket at a hobby shop, and then after asking a couple of questions to some folks that work for NASA, believing that he is qualified to write a discourse on interplanetary space travel.
No I don't remember the piece you refer to. I was not around then. Not to worry though. I have read enough of that type of stuff. Eighth grade term papers at Harvard.
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Post by bc on Nov 12, 2011 9:58:19 GMT -6
I don't even remember his name now but apparently he has deleted all his posts and threads including the introduction one. Didn't know you could do that.
Maybe he had to erase his trail before/when his teacher/instructor/professor did a google search and caught him cheating on the internet.
My wife does part of the new employee orientations where she works. Part of it she assigned to an assistant who was new, gungho, and moved up fast in a couple years. This assistant described to the new employees how she was a recent college grad with a B average who was able to move up fast through hard work, a good attitude, and using good writing skills as they had to write reports for their job. Three of the newbies were new grads who were college football players (won't mention their race) and two of them then mentioned they just had a C average and never wrote a paper because they paid someone else to do it. I've now lost a lot of respect for the two local small colleges they came from but maybe I shouldn't be surprised. bc
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