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Post by Dark Cloud on Oct 27, 2010 3:50:01 GMT -6
fred has a new book coming out on all the participants of the Sioux War which, if as advertised, would be informative and handy for the complete fetishist as well as the historian. I read it's coming out in 2011.
Good for him. Seriously.
'keogh', who served an entire year of ROTC, has announced an 'early review' on his personal reality LBHA board which is the predictable, embarrassing, overwrought tongue bath of a civvy in a costume to a combat vet. True, manuscripts may have been passed around, but until the printer is done with it, it ain't done, and it ain't read.
Which is to say, an early review of not only an unread book as the public will see it, but a review of an actually unpublished book. keogh brags about this review he posted on Amazon, much as John Candy's character bragged about getting published in the new Penthouse letters column in Splash.
The first line of the publisher's description goes:
The Battle of Little Big Horn was the decisive engagement of the Great Sioux War of 1876-77.
Really. In what way was the battle decisive? The war went on - it wasn't half over - the battle winners lost the war. Or has fred gone over to Warlord and conz's contention that the slaughter Custer inflicted on the Sioux was so vast that the Sioux never recovered? Or is "decisive" short for "the only battle anyone - or at least this publicity intern - has heard of within a two year police action long ago"?
One hopes that level of attention was not applied to the text, but if it were and to deleterious result, keogh wouldn't change a word in his review and much of Custerland wouldn't notice anyway.
Glad to see fred includes a glossary of terminology.
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Post by markland on Oct 27, 2010 6:35:06 GMT -6
I'd say it was decisive because the results of the battle/battles caused the government quit treating Sitting Bull's free-roamers as a sideshow and actually sent enough resources into the theater to wage total war.
Be good....Oakland 59-Denver 14? LMAO!
Billy
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Post by Dark Cloud on Oct 27, 2010 11:10:03 GMT -6
Right. Same thing could be said about Pearl Harbor, which was somehow 'decisive' since it made the US enter and ramp up, etc. Come on.
If LBH had never happened, aside from Custer biodegrading in age, what difference would it make in the long run? A few details different, but the Sioux would have collapsed, some in Canada, some here. It was not decisive to the outcome of the 1876-7 Sioux War.
Just like last Sunday never happened. Tralalalala. I'm in my Happy Place. Colorado should get an NFL team. Someday. Coach Opie somehow failed to ignite the fire. Anyway, bite me. (Concise, what?)
Mblldldjworllllfffmumble.
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Post by Diane Merkel on Nov 5, 2010 10:46:59 GMT -6
Back to Fred . . . .
If this new book is the final version of what he sent me years ago, it should be an excellent reference.
Now back to football . . . .
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Post by crzhrs on Nov 15, 2010 13:49:53 GMT -6
Decisive? The handwriting was already on the wall. Everyone knew that, even most Indians. As Sitting Bull claimed to have said (paraphrase): "The White Man may get me in the end but we can have still have a few more good times . . ."
Yes . . . back to football. The Patriots DESTROYED the Steelers on Sunday Night Football.
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Post by fred on Nov 19, 2010 0:32:13 GMT -6
fred has a new book coming out on all the participants of the Sioux War which, if as advertised, would be informative and handy for the complete fetishist as well as the historian. I read it's coming out in 2011. Good for him. Seriously. Back to Fred . . . . If this new book is the final version of what he sent me years ago, it should be an excellent reference. I would like to thank you both for your kind comments... especially considering our past. And, yes, this is a final version of a good deal of the stuff I sent you years ago, Diane. Much improved, I would like to believe. People should also be aware of the fact that this is the result of your encouragement. Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by yankee on Nov 19, 2010 9:43:23 GMT -6
Fred,
Look forward to your book. I just know it will be good.
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Post by fred on Nov 19, 2010 11:46:50 GMT -6
Yankee,
That is kind of you; my thanks.
Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by Reddirt on Nov 19, 2010 19:07:38 GMT -6
Fred when your book arrives I will buy!
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Post by fred on Nov 19, 2010 19:36:59 GMT -6
Well... again, I appreciate the confidence all of you seem to have in my work, and I thank you for your kind comments. Just remember, the publisher describes this thing as a "biographical dictionary," and that is what it is, nothing more, nothing less.
Maybe this is a good spot to describe it a bit...
It consists of short bios of all the troops at the LBH, plus those left at PRD. Many of the "bios" are nothing more than "name-rank-and-serial-number," but others contain all sorts of little snippets of what I think is neat information. The example I like to give is, Did LT Cooke use an "e" at the end of his name?
Then there is a section for the scouts and civilians. The real new stuff is the biographical data and the listing of some 1,500 warriors, women, and children. I was hoping to add another 4,000 names, but I have not been able to verify the data, so I decided not to include it.
It then consists of several appendices, some mundane, some less so. There is a listing of those scouts thought to have been there: one by Williams, another by Graham, a third by Camp. Then there are all sorts of Indian dispositions and camp sites; uniforms, weaponry, QM items, who wore what... and a glossary! And that's about it. I consider it a reference guide and I set it up so it is easy to read and you needn't be an acronym specialist to get through it. It will also contain a pair of charts that-- I believe-- are definitive, and show the precise number of men who were at the battle (on Custer's side, please!). There is enough research in the charts to be able to support whatever they claim to show. I would like to believe it would be the type of book a real student might always keep within easy reach.
Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by yankee on Nov 20, 2010 6:33:44 GMT -6
Fred,
This is the type of book I have been looking for. Something with just the facts. I like to learn the mundane information.
I do not like reading someones illogical models and changing facts to fit what they perceive.
This sounds like a great reference book.
Thanks Doug
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Post by fred on Nov 20, 2010 13:38:24 GMT -6
Doug/Yankee,
Well, I hope certainly it meets your expectations. I tried to do it like it would be fun to read. Diane has seen a lot of the stuff that is in it, but it has been all reformatted and a lot of the things I originally did have been collated and put in a different configuration. Personally, from my point of view, the real fun is in the appendices. This is where you will find the "meat," the Indians who probably rode alongside Crazy Horse, the Indian "snipers" sitting atop Sharpshooters' Ridge... stuff like that. There was actually a lot more I wanted to include, but the size exceeded 500 pages when I had it copied, so I thought for an initial entry, what was there was good enough. Of course I don't know how big the actual production will be, but I had a marvelous piece of good news on Thursday: the editing is complete and no changes were made. Kind of remarkable, to be honest with you; I figured they would tear the thing to pieces. Hell... what do I know?
Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by bc on Apr 8, 2011 12:28:41 GMT -6
fred I have been checking the publisher website and it seems like number of pages has changed from 278 or so to about 248 pages. any ideas here and have you noticed that?
by the way I just bought an htc evo phone that is good for web surfing . it also has voice to text and I am dictating this response right now . best thing since sliced bread I may never go back to typing again .
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Post by Dark Cloud on Apr 8, 2011 17:31:39 GMT -6
Apparently Fred had to reduce his thanks to me by 25%. My attorneys are protesting.
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Post by fred on Apr 9, 2011 11:01:09 GMT -6
Apparently Fred had to reduce his thanks to me by 25%. My attorneys are protesting. Call off the barristers, my boy, you are not in this one! It is Book II, somewhere down the road, in which your role is prominent. And let everyone who reads this know, you were its driving force, fortuitously or otherwise. Without your insight I believe it would have remained only a pipe-dream. You won't have to go to the library to see it. Best wishes, Fred.
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