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Post by Tony on Jun 7, 2005 12:58:54 GMT -5
I'm new to this forum, but have studied this battle for many years--I have reconstructed crimes in law enforcement for many years as well--as far as officers being relable and trustworthy, just read their accounts at the Reno Hearing--what a sham!!!!
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Post by Mike Nunnally on Jun 7, 2005 14:03:30 GMT -5
Tim,
What do you mean by misunderstanding on our part? I think the sole survivor stories speak for themselves....they are generally not well thought out or researched..and a number changed their stories as often as their socks..I hope. It is true that a number of these stories were fueled by the newspapers who were far more competitive in their day than now. For instance, there is only one newspaper here in Memphis...but in the 1870's their were four...so it wasn't beyond them to ''add'' just a little bit to a story to sell more papers. Now I don't think the newspapers invented any of the stories, but they were not willing to investigate them either....kind of like the New York Times.
But I don't think there is any misunderstanding about them....well, maybe..actually one may have been totally misinderstood....Pvt. Thomas Stowers outlandish story about a wagon rolling over on him and saving his life....he fought in the valley and hilltop fights....I gotta think this was some sort of inside joke with the soldiers. He was there, he knew that there weren't any wagons there..and he must have known his other fellow soldiers would see his story in print....I mean it's such an outrageous story that's it's funny....he probably never thought it would end up on his tombstone! The joke that backfired...he probably told it a thousand times, anyway, maybe it was just a lie...we'll never know.
Your thoughts?
Tony...what were they trying to hide...'splain to me!
Scout
Present Memphis temperature 260 degrees...humidity 900 percent..sombody pass me that beer!
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Post by Lawtonka on Jun 7, 2005 21:30:46 GMT -5
Mike, sorry, I was not implying a misunderstanding on our part, I was implying that the contemporary reporters/newspapers were possibly the ones with the misunderstanding. Not auguing the subject, just speculating on how some of these outlandish tales were birthed. Never the less, it is all interesting. One example that I was thinking of was a local newspaper account of Sgt. Kanipe in North Carolina. I think I remember seeing him listed as a "sole survivor" in a headline, and I know that he never claimed that status at all. Of course this is much different that someone claiming to have survived from Custer's Battalion.
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Post by Mike Nunnally on Jun 8, 2005 7:39:36 GMT -5
Tim,
Your points are well taken...actually the more I think about it...well, I remembered one or two that the papers did totally invent..I do stand corrected then......but I have a small book coming out on sole survivors and I need to keep some of these little tidbits under wrap till then. There were several actual participants that the papers claimed were sole survivors. It is really some ridiculous stuff that I know these fellows never claimed. Product of some over active journalist, I suppose.
Do you have a copy of the Kanipe story??? I would love to stick a small blurb about that in my book.....I would love to see it if possible...I love those ''Jack Crabb'' stories!
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Post by Lawtonka on Jun 8, 2005 11:03:17 GMT -5
Mike,
I would sure like to get a copy of your book when it comes out. As for the Kanipe story, it has been published in "The Custer Myth" I think by Graham. It was a reprint from an old newspaper article that was published several times. It is personal narrative that he had written about his own experiiences. His accounts are published in qutie a few resources including "Custer in 76"
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Post by Mike Nunnally on Jun 8, 2005 12:39:34 GMT -5
Tim,
Yea, I remember the stuff written about Kanipe in Graham's book but I don't remember the sole survivor claim...I'll go back and dig deeper. I would love to tell you when my book will be out but I've gone to two printers trying to get a date on that, but they have yet to let me know how long it will be before they can get to the layout. I was hoping to have it ready before the two conventions so it could be sold there...at this point all I can do is wait...but thanks for asking.
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Post by newn on Apr 8, 2010 8:59:28 GMT -5
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Post by Dark Cloud on Apr 8, 2010 12:27:13 GMT -5
Unlikely. I don't think there were any missing men from Crook, but I'm also not sure what you're referencing here, either.
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Post by lonesomecharlie on Jun 5, 2011 2:23:09 GMT -5
I contacted the Smithsonian Institution and they FLATLY DENY that the body in question has been identified.  |
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