What became of Little Big Man?

[ephriam]

The first part of the article has already been accepted for Nebraska History, perhaps in the upcoming winter issue. That article covers the photographers to the Red Cloud Agency between 1874 and 1877 (Wilhelm, Hamilton, Mitchell, Howard, Rodocker, and others). A seperate piece on Howard was in the fall issue of Annals of Wyoming and a short article on Howard's photograph of Crazy Horse's grave was in the LBHA newsletter some months back. The piece I am working on now will go from 1878 up through 1900 (or maybe 1910). That will include information on individuals such as Godkin, Trager, and others.

Unfortunately, the Godkin images are not yet up on SIRIS. I have been saving up and each month ordering one image ($50 for a high resolution scan). So far I have six of them. Maybe we can take up a collection and together buy the remaining six and burn a CD for everyone who contributed!

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[grahamew]

I thought maybe Sword too, but wouldn't he have had his hair cut by 79?

[buffaloman]

Ephriam-

I like the idea of the Godkin CD. I'd be willing to contribute $50.00 or more if needed.

I found 11 Godkin images listed on SIRIS. Is there one I'm missing?

I made a couple of comparisons with Little Big Man and Sword and Sword seems to look more like the man in the Godkin image.

On SIRIS there is listed but with no image available of "Captain Sword and daughters" Contained in: George V. Allen Photographic Collection 1860s-1930s.

The photographer is unknown. Perhaps this is the Godkin photograph. It may be much later, however.





- Bob Brewer (buffaloman)

[ephriam]

Bob:

The comparison certainly looks compelling. And great eye on the George Sword and daughters image on SIRIS! We will have to add that to the list.

Of the Godkin images on SIRIS, so far I have scans for:
1. Red Cloud
2. American Horse (SIRIS lists 2 copies of same image)
3. Slow Bull
4. No Flesh
5. "Wee-e-tach-tokah"

I still need to order:
6. Black Bear
7. Red Dog
8. Red Shirt
9. White Bird
10. American Horse's daughter

Anyone else who would like to contribute toward the cost of the scans, I would be happy to send a CD with all ten images. Thank you Bill for being willing to contribute.

ephriam

[ephriam]

P.S. And about Little Big Man...

I checked and there is a record in the WPA Graves Registration Project (South Dakota Historical Society) for a man named Little Big Man who died in 1887 being buried in the Holy Cross Cemetery in Pine Ridge. I have a copy of the first parish book for Holy Cross, but that only goes up to 1881. I will endeavor to track down volume 2 to see if there is anything more about this Little Big Man.

[Diane Merkel]

Count me in for $50 also, e. I hope we can get at least four more people so you don't have to put any more of your money into the scans. Our international friends are welcome to send the US$50 by www.paypal.com to [e-mail], and I will see that Ephriam gets it.

We can use the images for the Book Project, correct?

Speaking of which . . .we need you guys to sign up for some names so we can get the project going. It will be an extremely good reference -- one you will be proud to have your name on -- but we need help!

[Dietmar]

Diane and Ephriam,

I am the next willing to participate in buying the Godkin images. I will try to do it via Paypal (perhaps I will need some further instruction )

Shame on me, I will write something for the book project soon (as I promised), if only my new built house gives me the time...

George Sword! So my guessing was not that bad ...

Best wishes

Dietmar

[crzhrs]

Ephriam:

I have TO KILL AN EAGLE by Kadleck (they owned a ranch in Nebraska and got to know many elderly Indians) which has photographs of Crazy Horse's "burial" tree. Supposedly Crazy Horse's body was placed there for a brief time then his parents took his body, cut it in half, and buried it in an unknown cave. His followers then caused an avalanche or placed large stones over its entrance to conceal it.

The book is quite informative with interviews of people who knew CH or heard stories passed down to them. Some great photos of it.

[agnes]

An interesting webpage connects to LBM: www.scissons.com/genealogy/bigman.html

[agnes]

I can also offer $50.

[Diane Merkel]

Fabulous, Agnes! By my count, we just need $50 more and Ephriam can order the rest.

[mort aux vaches]

I wouldn't mind contributing $50 myself. Just say 'go' and I'll send the money.

[buffaloman]

Diane and Ephriam-

Looks like there is enough interest. Let me know if I should send a check to what address, or should I use the paypal option?

-Bob

[Diane Merkel]

mortauxvaches said:

I wouldn't mind contributing $50 myself. Just say 'go' and I'll send the money.

Fabulous! I'm just waiting for Ephriam to verify that he needs $250 to complete the set. If so, then we're ready.

Ephriam, I can PayPal my $50 to you directly if you have a PayPal account; otherwise, I can be the collection point if you wish for the PayPal payments and send you a check for the entire amount pronto.

Diane

[Diane Merkel]

ephriam said:

I still need to order:
6. Black Bear
7. Red Dog
8. Red Shirt
9. White Bird
10. American Horse's daughter

We now have enough for the five scans Ephriam listed above. The following people have committed $50:

buffaloman
me
Dietmar
agnes
mort aux vaches

Dietmar has sent me $50 through PayPal, so I am going to send Ephriam a check for $250 today. The three remaining people can send $50 to [e-mail] using PayPal or send a check or money order for US$50 made payable to Diane Merkel to me at P.O. Box 1752, Niceville, FL 32588, USA.

Thank you all!

P.S. If others would like the CD, you can still contribute $50. I will give any extra money to Ephriam to help defray the cost of the scans he has already purchased.