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Post by AZ Ranger on Sept 23, 2015 6:17:11 GMT -6
 The Indians are still shooting at him |
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Post by magpie on Sept 24, 2015 17:47:45 GMT -6
AZ Just a quick question. When Reno left the valley and was forced to move further (south?) of the original crossing, was there a better crossing near by than the one he used? Regards Dave Henry Weibert talks about Reno's retreat Ford and if I remember he said there was a better crossing and a better trail up before, in reference to the retreat, Reno's retreat Ford. It may be the trail the Dr. was killed took up from the bottoms. In the RCOI someone said there were numerous potential river crossings every where but one witness said it was unfordable in the area of the "glade" or Reno's "timber". Weibert was taking the position as to which draws had a flat bottom for horse traffic. You've got a hundred horses to bring across. |
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Post by AZ Ranger on Sept 25, 2015 7:38:05 GMT -6
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Post by AZ Ranger on Sept 25, 2015 7:50:30 GMT -6
AZ Just a quick question. When Reno left the valley and was forced to move further (south?) of the original crossing, was there a better crossing near by than the one he used? Regards Dave Henry Weibert talks about Reno's retreat Ford and if I remember he said there was a better crossing and a better trail up before, in reference to the retreat, Reno's retreat Ford. It may be the trail the Dr. was killed took up from the bottoms. In the RCOI someone said there were numerous potential river crossings every where but one witness said it was unfordable in the area of the "glade" or Reno's "timber". Weibert was taking the position as to which draws had a flat bottom for horse traffic. You've got a hundred horses to bring across. The 7th Ranch where we stay was the Weibert Ranch. I suspect Weibert had a lot more time to recon and select other fording places. My impression is that single riders can cross anywhere but not everywhere if that makes sense. Requirements for troops under fire or moving to contact would be different. The previous picture shows another crossing place. I suspect that part of a breakout is to punch a hole into the surrounding Indians and attempt to separate from them. The first part was easy and worked. I don't think trying to cross the river to close to the timber would have that same effect as the charge to open the gap in the surrounding Indians. The troop movement in the timber and immediate crossing would allow the Indians to surround the troops in the river and shoot down upon them from above. Considering the overwhelming numbers of Indians and the duration of the run to the crossing the casualties seem within reason for taking such an action. I would think Reno may have been running to Ford A to get back to where the regiment was located. The Indians decided not to let him get to Ford A. If he had made it he would have ran into Benteen and the pack train. The Indians pursing Reno would be two miles from the village and Custer would still be on the other side of the river, Regards AZ Ranger |
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Post by magpie on Sept 25, 2015 11:23:21 GMT -6
I wondered if Reno doing his job as commander and not the jobs of his subordinates as everyone seems to want, may have noted the spot on the charge from Ford A and the skirmish line. He could have planned a line of retreat or noted a point of possible attack to his rear as he passed. What ever his short comings Reno played one hell of a game down on the bottoms. Again the Indians said they were about to attack just as he withdrew. That tells me the Indians did not believe he could hold the position in the timber.
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