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Post by quincannon on Jun 13, 2012 17:41:17 GMT -6
Bite my tounge. Alice mooning the looking glass again.
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Post by Yan Taylor on Jun 14, 2012 3:24:20 GMT -6
One chap over there said:
‘’Kanipe, in fact, says Custer's command did not stop at all once it got started after Reno left them’’.
Martin say’s; ‘’ we struck a little creek where we watered our horses. That was the only place we halted’’.
Was Martini telling ‘’porkies’’ ?
So many different names for the various locations, I bet most of them are the same place with a different name.
Ash Creek
Hartung Morass
South Fork
North fork
Mathey Point
Mathey's knoll
Reno creek
Benteen creek
Noname Creek
How can a boy keep up.
Ian.
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Post by Carl on Jun 14, 2012 9:03:19 GMT -6
Ian
It is all very simple
If Benteen had not used his discretion and continued on
and then turned north when he reached the valley
and maintained a pace of 5.73 miles per hour, he would
have reached the Garry open loop at 3:17 hours.
That is, unless Wallace lied at the RCOI.
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Post by quincannon on Jun 14, 2012 9:25:26 GMT -6
Ian: All this could be settled if they would just follow my suggestion and rename the whole park as they did once before
Burger King National Battlefield Park - Home of the Whopper
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on Jun 14, 2012 9:30:53 GMT -6
Bite my tounge. Alice mooning the looking glass again. Chuck, I wonder if we can simply ignore the other boards? Surely we have enough going on on our boards to occupy our intelligence? With respect. Hunk |
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Post by quincannon on Jun 14, 2012 9:48:01 GMT -6
Hunk: That post has nothing whatsoever to do with the other board. It was an expression borrowed from my late mother in law, meaning that I spoke first without thnking. I should have realized that the name of the area in question was not accurate.
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Post by Yan Taylor on Jun 14, 2012 9:53:58 GMT -6
Chuck, the Doc say’s I cannot eat burgers anymore because of my Cholesterol (its nearly 6) if she knew I had one of my favourite Sandwiches today she would go ballistic:
2 x slices of wholemeal bread (buttered)
1 x large slice of extra mature cheddar cheese
4 x slices of German salami
4 x slices of tomato
Twist of black pepper
Serve with a glass of milk
Hunk. I agree with you on the fact that I was reading one thing over there only to find a different version over here, I will stick to over here from now on.
Ian.
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Post by quincannon on Jun 14, 2012 10:01:37 GMT -6
Ian: Who ever said that you don't live on the wild side of life?
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on Jun 14, 2012 10:02:19 GMT -6
One chap over there said: ‘’Kanipe, in fact, says Custer's command did not stop at all once it got started after Reno left them’’. Martin say’s; ‘’ we struck a little creek where we watered our horses. That was the only place we halted’’. Was Martini telling ‘’porkies’’ ? So many different names for the various locations, I bet most of them are the same place with a different name. Ash Creek Hartung Morass South Fork North fork Mathey Point Mathey's knoll Reno creek Benteen creek Noname Creek How can a boy keep up. Ian. Ian, I believe that Martini was telling the truth about the watering as there was nothing to be gained by lying about this. Here is an extract from his RCOI testimony: Q) How near did he go to the river there? A) He did not go near the river at all. We struck a little creek where we watered our horses. That was the only place we halted. Q) Was that after Major Reno had gone ahead? A) Yes, sir. Q) Had Major Reno gone to the left of the creek? A) Yes, sir. Q) What order did General Custer give there? A) He sent his compliments to the commanders and directed them not to let the horses drink too much, that they had too much traveling to do that day. Q) How long were the horses drinking? A) About 5 minutes. Q) How long was the halt there? A) About 10 minutes altogether. To me, these are simple statements from an honest man. As to why Kanipe did not ever mention the same thing I can only conjecture that in the various stories he told it was just not a big enough matter to boost his own importance in the scheme of things. The bewildering array of names are inclined to numb the mind, but most of them are irrelevant anyway, so I should just stick to the ones that matter. Fingers crossed for Wild's team today. An abundance of four-leaved shamrocks is required!. Hunk |
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Post by Yan Taylor on Jun 15, 2012 3:17:57 GMT -6
Yes Chuck that’s me, always living on the edge.
Hunk, what do you think of the part where Martini met Benteen.
Q. Tell what you saw going back?
A. After I started from Gen. Custer to go back, I travelled 5 or 600 yards perhaps 3/4 of a mile. I got on the same ridge where General Custer saw the village the first time. On going back over that ridge I looked down into the bottom, and I saw Major Reno's battalion was engaged. I paid no further attention to it, but went forward on my business.
Then I went on to the edge of the stream and about 3 or 400 yards above the creek where we watered our horses, I met Capt. Benteen.
Was Benteen watering his horses for a second time that afternoon? he had already watered his mounts at the morass why water them again, surly once you have watered your mounts and heard gun fire you are in a state of alert, why stop again when you are in a combat zone.
Well this Irish went down fighting against the world champs; they are out of the Tournament now, so they might as well cheer England on, in the same way the Welsh and Scottish do.
Ian.
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Post by wild on Jun 15, 2012 8:14:44 GMT -6
Ian
I promised you a story of the Vickers machine gun mounted in an armoured car.
You were right about the use of the Vickers in the Rolls Royce armoured car.I had thought it was the Lewis.
The outbreak of WW2 found the Irish defence forces at a very low ebb.
Because of our neutral status neither the British Government nor Uncle Sam would entertain any appeals for arms of any kind.Roosevelt actually threw our foreign minister out of his office.
So we had to make do with home made munitions.We manufactured a few dozen armoured cars made of salvaged unhardened steel and mounting a single Vickers machine gun on a ball mount in a manual operated turret.The body of the car was fitted to a ford cassis cannibalised from ford trucks.
It actually saw action in The Congo with the UN.
It had one unforseen problem.When the Vickers was fired it showered the driver with red hot ejected shells.
One can only surmise that if faced with Rommel's tigers it would have suffered the same fate as our soccer team at the hands of the Spanish.
You can see the car on youtube under 1941 Carlow Ford armoured car.
Regards
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Post by Yan Taylor on Jun 15, 2012 8:54:07 GMT -6
Richard, I will look it up on YouTube.
Sorry about the Irish footy team going out Richard, bring back Eoin Hand I say, good luck against the All Blacks in game two, always thought Brian O’Driscoll would have made a good Rugby League player, a lot tougher player then Jeremy Guscott.
One last question me old mucker, I remember the Irish Gaelic Football Team playing the Australian Rules Football Team in a friendly match years ago, do you remember it, I am sure it turned into a free for all.
P.S. Remember to watch the England V Exlies match this Saturday.
Ian.
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Post by Dark Cloud on Jun 15, 2012 8:55:10 GMT -6
If Ireland wasn't going to fight in the war, why did it need arms? How and when could it pay for them? Wouldn't Allied forces get first call on arms? Ireland worked with Germany before in WWI, might again in the new one.
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Post by Yan Taylor on Jun 15, 2012 9:14:11 GMT -6
Any nation need some sort of defence force, even if it was just to keep public order, these Armoured Cars (rudimentary as they were) were probably to train there standing Army, even if they were a part time force.
Darkcloud, what’s this new one, the Germans are not going to kick off again are they? I will have to have a word with Ulan, tell him to sort it out.
Ian.
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Post by ulan on Jun 15, 2012 9:28:02 GMT -6
Bite my tounge. Alice mooning the looking glass again. Chuck, I wonder if we can simply ignore the other boards? Surely we have enough going on on our boards to occupy our intelligence? With respect. Hunk Good reminder Hunk! And that is meant without disrespect cause the other board is quite good too.... |
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