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Post by andreywind on Apr 28, 2012 1:33:26 GMT -6
Hello, friends! I need help.
What is Hunkpatila band? It is often put together with the name of Crazy Horse.
What does the word Hunkpatila mean?
Is the Bad Faces band the same group or they are different Lakotas?
And what is the Last Child organisation? Has it something to do with Bad Faces?
Thank you
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Post by fred on Apr 28, 2012 7:02:49 GMT -6
What is Hunkpatila band? It is often put together with the name of Crazy Horse. What does the word Hunkpatila mean? Is the Bad Faces band the same group or they are different Lakotas? And what is the Last Child organisation? Has it something to do with Bad Faces? Andreywind, I have some data for you-- and I will post it shortly-- but you should also try this site: amertribes.proboards.com/index.cgi?The young lady who developed this LBH site also developed the site for American Tribes, and you will find some of the smartest and best sources that can answer all your questions about Indians. Best wishes, Fred. |
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Post by fred on Apr 28, 2012 7:42:51 GMT -6
What is Hunkpatila band? It is often put together with the name of Crazy Horse. What does the word Hunkpatila mean? Is the Bad Faces band the same group or they are different Lakotas? And what is the Last Child organisation? Has it something to do with Bad Faces? Andreywind, I am not an expert—by any means!—on American Indians, but here are some data I have put together. “Hunkpatila” was a particular band of Oglala Sioux… for example: Little Hawk (Cetan Cikala)—(Oglala Lakota – Teton Sioux)—b. circa 1835 – d. circa 1898. Headman of his own band, the Hunkpatila. There is a Brulé by the same name. Listed in the Crazy Horse surrender ledger, 1877. Along with Snatch Stealer, listed as “head-of-household.” Lodge consisted of three adult females, two male children, and three female children; a total of ten people. He was clearly in the battle. Presence confirmed by Myers, though he only lists him as a Teton Sioux. An uncle of Crazy Horse. “Bad Face” was another Oglala band, but I do not know if the two—Hunkpatila and Bad Face were the same. I would doubt it, however: Hunts The Enemy (aka, Owns Sword)—(Oglala Lakota – Teton Sioux)—Member of the Bad Face band. As for “Last Child,” see below: Eagle Elk—(Oglala Lakota – Teton Sioux)—b. near the confluence of the White and Missouri rivers, circa 1851, making him twenty-five years old at time of the battle. The son of Long Whirlwind and Pretty Feather Woman. Used a Winchester repeater. Known to have been in both the valley fight and the Custer battle. Presence confirmed by Myers. Reputed to have been a cousin of Crazy Horse [Hardorff, Hokahey!, p. 47]. Belonged to the Last Child Society (Hoksi Hakakta), a 40 – member military society whose members were the last-born sons of prominent families [Hardorff, Lakota Recollections of the Custer Fight, p. 99, footnote 1]. The following is from the work of a friend of mine, Ephriam Dickson, who—for my two farthings—is the most knowledgeable person anywhere when it comes to Sioux Indians. This should help you a lot: “Following the killing of Crazy Horse and the removal of the agency to the Missouri River, many of the northern bands fled north, joining Sitting Bull in Canada. Among these Oglala bands were the Oyuhpe led by Big Road, the Soreback Band with He Dog and the Hunkpatila band under Little Hawk….
“Even as late as 1910-1914 when allotments were being made at Pine Ridge, many members of the Soreback community could be found still living in close proximity to each other. In contrast, the Hunkpatila, the band of Little Hawk and the late Crazy Horse, did not survive as a separate entity. By 1890, a large portion of Little Hawk’s followers had joined the larger Tasnaheca band. What led this northern tiwahe to join a southern Oglala band is not yet understood….
“Little Hawk—Prior to the Great Sioux War, the Hunkpatila band appears to have split. Part settled at the Red Cloud Agency under Young Man Afraid of His Horses and became known as the Payabya band. The other portion remained in the north, under the leadership of Little Hawk Cetan Cikala (c1835-c1898). He was an uncle of the famed war leader Crazy Horse who was also a member of this band. At Pine Ridge, this band settled with the Tapisleca or Melt Band.”More from Ephriam… “The Oglala had developed into three tiyospaye by the time of He Dog’s birth. The Oyuhpe Oglala, numbering about 100 lodges under White Earrings, lived along the eastern edge of the Black Hills and maintained strong ties to the Mnicoujou and Northern Cheyenne. The Kuinyan Oglala, of which He Dog’s parents were originally members, was led by White Swan and his five sons, including the influential headman Bull Bear. They lived on the upper reaches of the Platte River near the fur trading post of Fort Laramie. The third Oglala tiyospaye was known originally as the Hunkpatila and was led by Yellow Eagle. They claimed the same hunting grounds as the Kuinyan on the Platte River, giving rise to a growing competition for the bison. He Dog was one year old when tensions between the Kuinyan and the Hunkpatila boiled over into violence, an event that shaped Oglala history for decades to come.”Bad Face band, also written by Ephriam— “But rather than moving with the Southern Oglala to the Republican River country, Black Stone and his young family appear to have shifted their lodge to Hunkpatila tribal circle, remaining on the Platte River. In the years following the death of Bull Bear, the Hunkpatila Oglala expanded their territory northwest from the Upper Platte, pushing the Crow back and gaining additional hunting territory in the Powder River country. They developed stronger connections with the Oyuhpe Oglala and with other northern Lakota tribes such as the Mnicoujou and Hunkpapa. The rise of Red Cloud as a prominent war leader among the Oglala during the Powder River War brought a wicotipi called the Itesica or Bad Faces to a position of considerable influence. The original Hunkpatila tiyošpaye reorganized and became known as the True Oglala, with the Bad Faces emerging as the most prominent camp among this tiyošpaye during the 1860s. Many of the young warriors, including He Dog, gained valuable experience about fighting white soldiers in the skirmishes along the Platte River in 1865 and in the Powder River War of 1866-67.”Hope this all helps. Best wishes, Fred. |
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Post by andreywind on Apr 28, 2012 12:34:34 GMT -6
Fred, thank you.
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Post by fred on Apr 28, 2012 13:15:19 GMT -6
Andreywind,
You are quite welcome. It is my pleasure.
Best wishes,
Fred.
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