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Post by schrack on Jul 11, 2009 5:47:32 GMT -6
Looking for a listing of all U.S.A calvary involved in this conflict. Help much appreciated.
Doug
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Post by conz on Jul 11, 2009 7:09:48 GMT -6
Doug,
If you mean by name, I don't think anyone has ever compiled a list, to my knowledge.
The units that were involved are well known, though...just Wiki it.
Were you talking about the specific action that day, or the entire campaign in the area?
Clair
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Post by schrack on Jul 12, 2009 4:42:15 GMT -6
Isaac Stevens, Troop D . Did he fight at Wounded Knee and Drexel Mission.
Thanks, Doug
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Post by stevewilk on Jul 15, 2009 0:15:44 GMT -6
If Billy has not unearthed this information for you yet, the new book Military Register from Washita to Wounded Knee is due out in August from Upton Books. I've got it ordered and it should provide the data you are seeking.
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Post by HinTamaheca on Aug 13, 2009 11:31:13 GMT -6
Listing created by Major General Miles of the killed and wounded "in the engagement at Crossing of Wounded Knee Creek, Dec. 29, 1890" (dated 3 January 1891):
Killed:
Capt. Geo. D. Wallace, 7th Cavalry, Hospital Steward Oscar Pollak, U.S. Army, Sergt. Major Richard W. Corwin(e), 7th Cavalry
Sergt. Arthur C. Dyer, Privates Henry Frey, Geo. P. Johnson, Michael Regan, and James Logan, Troop A
1st Sergt. Dora S. Coffey, Corporal Harry R. Forrest, Privates John Costello, Ralph L. Cook, and William S. Meze(?), Troop B
Private James DeVrsods(?), Troop C
Private Frank T. Reinecky, Troop D
Sergt. Robert H. Nettles(?), and Private August Kellner, Troop E
Blacksmith Gustav Korn, Privates Daniel Twohig, James E. Kelley, and Pierce Cummings, Troop I
Sergt. William T. Hodges, Privates John H.(?) McCue, Joseph Murphy, Wm. F. McClintock, and Philip Schwenkey, Troop K, 7th Cavalry.
Wounded:
First Lieuts. Ernest A. Garlington and John C. Gresham, 7th Cavalry
Sergt. A.H. Hazelwood, Privates Adam Nador(?), Harry L. Duncan, Daniel McMahon, and Herman Granberg, Troop A
Sergts. William H. Toohey, and James Ward, Corporal Chas. H. Nervell, Privates Frank Lewis, Harry B. Stone, and John McKenzie, Troop B
Privates Ervin Schriver, and William H. Green, Troop C
Wagoner George York, Troop D
Sergt. John F. Tritle, Troop E
Sergts. Geo. Loyd, and Henry Howard, Corporal Albert S. Bone, Privates Bernhard Zolinder(?), Gottleb(?) Hipp, and Harvey H. Thomas, Troop I
Corporal Harold L. Clifton, Trumpeter Jas. Christienson, Privates Wm. Adams, Edward A. Sullivan, C.F. Martin, William J. Davis, Saml. F. Smith, Frederick C. Yoder, Geo. Elliott, and Hugh McGuiness, Troop K, 7th Cavalry.
Of the wounded, Corporals Chas. H. Nowell, Troop B, and Albert S. Bone, Troop I, and Private Bernhard Zolinder, Troop I, 7th Cavalry, died the same night before reaching the agency, and Private Herman Granberg, Troop K, 7th Cavalry, has died since.
Second Lieut. Harry L. Hawthorne, 2nd Artillery, serving with Light Battery E, 1st Artillery, was wounded, as was 1st Lieut. John Kinzie(?), Adjt. 2nd Infantry, who was by permission with Major Whiteside.
In addition to above one Indian scout, "High Backbone", was killed, and Father Kraft was badly wounded with a knife.
(signed) Miles, Maj. Genl. Commanding.
*******
In addition,
Pvt. Harry B. Stone, Troop B, having died of his wounds on 11 January 1891, was buried in Grave 18 at the Pine Ridge Agency Cemetery. His body was later exhumed from Pine Ridge Agency Cemetery and re-interred at the Ft. Riley, Kansas Post Cemetery, Section D, Grave Number 121.
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Post by HinTamaheca on Aug 13, 2009 11:43:35 GMT -6
Edited list for clarity:
Killed:
Capt. George D. Wallace, 7th Cavalry Hospital Steward Oscar Pollak, U.S. Army Sergt. Major Richard W. Corwin(e), 7th Cavalry Sergt. Arthur C. Dyer Pvt. Henry Frey, Troop A Pvt. George P. Johnson, Troop A Pvt. Michael Regan, Troop A Pvt. James Logan, Troop A 1st Sergt. Dora S. Coffey, Troop B Corporal Harry R. Forrest, Troop B Pvt. John Costello, Troop B Pvt. Ralph L. Cook, Troop B Pvt. William S. Meze(?), Troop B Pvt. James DeVrsods(?), Troop C Pvt. Frank T. Reinecky, Troop D Sergt. Robert H. Nettles(?), Troop E Pvt. August Kellner, Troop E Blacksmith Gustav Korn, Troop I Pvt. Daniel Twohig, Troop I Pvt. James E. Kelley, Troop I Pvt. Pierce Cummings, Troop I Sergt. William T. Hodges, Troop K Pvt. John H.(?) McCue, Troop K Pvt. Joseph Murphy, Troop K Pvt. William F. McClintock, Troop K Pvt. Philip Schwenkey, Troop K
Of the wounded,
Corporal Chas. H. Nowell, Troop B Corporal Albert S. Bone, Troop I Private Bernhard Zolinder, Troop I, 7th Cavalry, died the same night before reaching the agency, and Private Herman Granberg, Troop K, 7th Cavalry, has died since.
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Post by bc on Aug 13, 2009 13:14:07 GMT -6
How many were killed by friendly Hotchkiss gunfire? Probably many of them I suspect.
bc
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Post by HinTamaheca on Dec 30, 2009 8:55:19 GMT -6
Members of U.S. 7th Cavalry at Wounded Knee - 1890 Can anyone identify these men?
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Post by bc on Dec 30, 2009 13:10:15 GMT -6
Don't know. But they look like a grizzly bunch of old age and heavy, overweight guys to me. Looks about like a present day group of reenactors to me. Their spurs are not of the 1876 style but the spurs of today with the button attached strap that buckles over the top. The reenactors from the Realbirds and Gettysburg look more authentic that this rag tag bunch. These guys have no uniformity with their uniforms. (maybe that's how you tell a re-enactor cause they try to be to authentic and uniform with the others when in reality there was no such thing, particularly with the 7th)
You can argue and tell me it's the photography, but that overweight guy on the left appears to have a lighter color cavalry stripe on his pants and the others more darker. Suggests to me they are mostly infantry. Finally found a photo with both colors for comparison.
The guy on the left looks like the flag bearer for Steve Alexander when he re-enacts.
bc
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Post by markland on Dec 30, 2009 20:36:16 GMT -6
Isaac Stevens, Troop D . Did he fight at Wounded Knee and Drexel Mission. Thanks, Doug His name does not appear in Williams' Military Register of Custer's Command. Billy
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Post by markland on Dec 30, 2009 20:38:21 GMT -6
Don't know. But they look like a grizzly bunch of old age and heavy, overweight guys to me. Looks about like a present day group of reenactors to me. Their spurs are not of the 1876 style but the spurs of today with the button attached strap that buckles over the top. The reenactors from the Realbirds and Gettysburg look more authentic that this rag tag bunch. These guys have no uniformity with their uniforms. (maybe that's how you tell a re-enactor cause they try to be to authentic and uniform with the others when in reality there was no such thing, particularly with the 7th) You can argue and tell me it's the photography, but that overweight guy on the left appears to have a lighter color cavalry stripe on his pants and the others more darker. Suggests to me they are mostly infantry. Finally found a photo with both colors for comparison. The guy on the left looks like the flag bearer for Steve Alexander when he re-enacts. bc Don't forget that those guys were likely wearing a whole lot of clothes under the outer layer. And the higher grade officers would tend to be older since the promotion chain was so clogged up. Billy
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Post by stevewilk on Dec 31, 2009 1:59:43 GMT -6
bc:
Those men are not re-enactors. If they are they did a hell of a job as I am quite certain the man seated on the left is Myles Moylan; he turned 52 years old in Dec of 1890. The man over his right shoulder, with the revolver on his hip may be Lt. Horatio Gates Sickel, who turned 37 two weeks after Wounded Knee. The old geezer seated in the middle could be Maj. Samuel Whitside; he I think was 51 at the time. Another guess would be Lt. Col. James Forsyth though I don't think so as I've checked photos of him.
Those guys are not infantry; trouser stripes for infantry were white in 1890. Those are cavalrymen; except the man in the overcoat and forage cap. Cannot make out his insignia. Maybe one of Miles' staff officers. Most are wearing the high cavalry boot adopted in the 1880s. The officer with the pistol is wearing the rubber cold weather boots.
I don't see them as all that fat. But keep in mind by 1890 there was little field service; they rode the rails rather than ride everwhere and army chow was much improved by then.
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Post by crzhrs on Dec 31, 2009 8:17:43 GMT -6
Hello . . . bc was having a little fun at DC's expense!
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Post by Melani on Jan 1, 2010 21:53:14 GMT -6
Hello . . . bc was having a little fun at DC's expense! Imagine--a bunch of gray-bearded middle-aged cavalry officers! What IS history coming to?
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Post by Melani on Jan 2, 2010 1:55:10 GMT -6
Here is my favorite photo of the officers at Wounded Knee:
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