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Post by haaestohose on Jul 2, 2009 17:41:30 GMT -6
This trivial question has troubled me for years. Why does Gall wear his warbonnet sideways in this photo? Was he drunk? Was he a very early pioneer of hip-hop fashions? Or perhaps, the bonnet simply shifted to one side as the photo was being taken? I can't lose any more sleep over this! Someone must know something!  |
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Post by glenbow on Jul 3, 2009 6:41:53 GMT -6
Many frontier photographers of the late 1800s dressed their models in clothing and props they had acquired from various tribes and had lying around their studios. I suspect that was the case with this photograph as I have not seen another photograph of Gall in which he wears an eagle feather bonnet. As to why it is tilted, I have seen the feathers of such bonnets blow to one side when they are worn outside in the wind although this picture appears to have been taken indoors. The portion around his head is very different from any I have seen as well - the feathers were usually attached to a snug-fitting skull cap made of deer or buffalo hide, whereas this one appears to be made of some loose material and looks almost ragged and unfinished. I wish I could be of more help and I've often wondered about this portrait of Gall myself - do you know who the photographer was? Perhaps you could find different views of the bonnet in photographs by the same person.
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Post by grahamew on Jul 7, 2009 11:19:30 GMT -6
The background looks like George W. Scott - his early 80s backdrop. I've seen the picture credited to R. L. Kelly, but I think it's Scott. There's a thread avbout Kelly at amertribes.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=photos&action=display&thread=291About the bonnet, I have no idea. Because there's no brow band, it doesn't look typical of the style you see on bonnets from that period, unless it's some society item. I can't help wondering if they're not off something else and have been wrapped around his head and held in place to give the effect of a warbonnet. It look suspiciously like the white feathers have been alternated with a set of couloured feathers (which you can see at either side) - not unlike the effect you find on lances. There is a drawing of a Cheyenne in Lakota Belief and Ritual wearing a bonnet like this - but it still looks more obviously lie a traditional bonnet in structure. |
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Post by wolfgang911 on Jul 15, 2009 14:06:48 GMT -6
I think he looks very very cool and not drunk with that war bonnet side ways. Just like baseball caps there were several ways to wear em..
seems like he just came in from a good day on the LBH
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Post by HinTamaheca on Jul 23, 2009 7:43:16 GMT -6
The feathered headdress has been put on Gall's head backwards. The decorated brow band is most likely in the back of his head. The group of feathers, held together by a thread half-way up the quill, would normally slope towards the back. However, with the headdress put on backwards, they flopped to the side.
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Post by bc on Jul 23, 2009 10:22:03 GMT -6
Good observation H T and I enjoy your posts. Makes me wonder if that same headdress shows up on anyone else? I also don't know if this photo was taken in Dakota or Washington.
Do you see anything indicative on Gall's shirt? Maybe something indicating the societies he was a member of or his number of scalps? I'm not sure there is any actual hair on his shirt but there is an implication to me of 4 or 5 scalps. It doesn't appear to be a shirtwearer type shirt.
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Post by HinTamaheca on Jul 23, 2009 11:32:54 GMT -6
This picture of Gall I believe is circa 1880s. The hide shirt he is wearing, if its even his, looks to be an older style. The shoulder and sleeve strips are done in porcupine quillwork which was popular in the 1850s and 1860s. By the 1880s, most shirts were using beadwork for the shoulder and sleeve strips. I suspect that the hide shirt was a studio "prop" also. Other photos of Gall include: Gall - Hunkpapa - no date  Gall - Hunkpapa - no date  Gall - Hunkpapa - no date  Gall and wife - Hunkpapa - no date  Gall and family - Hunkpapa - no date  Gall - Hunkpapa - 1881  Gall - Hunkpapa - 1881  Gall - Hunkpapa - 1881  non-Indian boy and Gall - Hunkpapa - 1881  Gall - Hunkpapa - 1881  Gall - Hunkpapa - 1881  Gall - Hunkpapa - circa 1880s  Gall - Hunkpapa - 1885  Gall - Hunkpapa - 1888  Gall - Hunkpapa - 1889  |
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Post by wolfgang911 on Jul 24, 2009 14:24:29 GMT -6
well gall had obviously his connections to get some extra rations  |
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Post by grahamew on Jul 25, 2009 3:08:48 GMT -6
A few points. The photo of Gall in the bonnet is a Scott; therefore it was taken in Dakota. The background is his pre-1884 one (the later one is much cruder).
The first three photos dated 1878 in the post above were taken at Fort Buford by David Barry after Gall's surrender in 1881. I'm not sure about the one with the boy and its companion. The robe is the same, so unless it's a prop, I suspect it was taken near that time too.
And yes, Gall did become obese; in fact it led to his early death.
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Post by wolfgang911 on Jul 25, 2009 14:27:44 GMT -6
they should have stayed out in canada and stay slim
it was asking for health problems putting indians on reservations without any exercice 8-)like well horse raiding, dancing, ambushing a regiment, counting coups and hunting
what a drag the change
stay fit be a renegade
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