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Post by erkki on Mar 29, 2008 14:31:35 GMT -6
Highly recommend Michael Donohue's Drawing Battle Lines: The Map Testimony of Custer's Last Fight $48.00? $55.00? A remarkable achievement and an invaluable one. Available from: Upton & Sons 917 Hillcrest Street El Segundo, CA 90245 800-959-1876 www.uptonbooks.com/email rupton1@socal.rr.com No, I'm not getting a commission. Yes. I am more than pleased.
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on Mar 30, 2008 9:40:49 GMT -6
I'm anxiously awaiting my copy! Richard Upton is to be commended on continually making available to us publications that enhance our understanding of the 1876 Sioux Campaign.
Hunk
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Post by Diane Merkel on Mar 30, 2008 10:52:14 GMT -6
A box from Upton has been sitting unopened on the kitchen counter for two days. After reading that it might be Donohue's book, I opened it without permission (hee, hee). It looks fabulous! Can't wait to dive in.
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Post by BrokenSword on Mar 30, 2008 12:26:47 GMT -6
Diane- "...A box from Upton has been sitting unopened on the kitchen counter for two days...."
Seriously??? What strength of character! What self-discipline! What uncuriocity like, (real word?) other world nature!
I, for one, do not believe it. No, sir, not for a second. Two minutes perhaps. Two hours possible - but only on the outer fringes of plausibility.
What a tale! Amazing!! Homeric stamina, if true!!!
M
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Post by Diane Merkel on Mar 30, 2008 20:22:46 GMT -6
True, ole BS! I think it's the first time in recorded history that Chuck didn't open an Upton box immediately upon receipt. I confessed, he came home and saw the book and the evidence (box torn apart in great haste) and all is right with the world. The fact that I'm now in a motel 150 miles away from home has nothing to do with it.
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Post by erkki on Mar 31, 2008 14:32:59 GMT -6
For what it's worth: the grid numbers 1-20 on the top of the Luce map on p 341 do not correspond to the copy I have of the original. They are skewed 1 place to the right--probably a problem that arose in printing. Nos. 1 & 7 are in Grid 7/E (cf. Luce's note on p. 339), and No. 4 is on the grid line between 15-16 rather than 16-17.
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Post by cefil on Mar 31, 2008 20:50:25 GMT -6
For what it's worth: the grid numbers 1-20 on the top of the Luce map on p 341 do not correspond to the copy I have of the original. They are skewed 1 place to the right--probably a problem that arose in printing. Nos. 1 & 7 are in Grid 7/E (cf. Luce's note on p. 339), and No. 4 is on the grid line between 15-16 rather than 16-17. This is kinda interesting. On another board, posted 6 hours *later*, came this: I am reading the book now and just noticed that the grid numbers 1-20 on the top of the Luce map on p 341 are shifted 1 place to the right. Numbers 1 & 7 are in Grid 7/E (cf. Luce's note on p. 339), and No. 4 is on the grid line between 15-16 rather than 16-17. Hmmm... cefil
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Post by gocav76 on Mar 31, 2008 22:52:00 GMT -6
It does seem Keogh beat you to the punch.
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Post by erkki on Apr 1, 2008 10:29:31 GMT -6
That's what I get for not keeping up with both boards. I wonder what Keogh will make of Custer's route on Dustin's map.
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Post by clw on Apr 1, 2008 10:46:47 GMT -6
It looks to me like keogh copied erkki, not the other way around. I can't afford the book, erkki. Can you give a quick description of the route Dustin has Custer taking?
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Post by gocav76 on Apr 1, 2008 11:09:58 GMT -6
clw, I was just making an Aprils Fool day joke about Keogh beating erkki to the punch!
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Post by clw on Apr 1, 2008 11:48:48 GMT -6
Well you got me! That's about the third time you have, but with Gordie gone, somebody's got to do it. Keeps me humble.
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Post by erkki on Apr 1, 2008 13:35:17 GMT -6
I can't afford the book, erkki. Can you give a quick description of the route Dustin has Custer taking? That's what I am trying to figure out. With the not very good magnifying glass (where is the good one?). Looks like he has GAC going pretty much along Pennington's "Middle Coulee" to Luce, where he has Martin sent back, and then he has "Custer's route" going on a diagonal across Nye-Cartwright to the upper reaches of Deep Coulee SE of Calhoun Hill. But there is also a line marked Custer's route going up Deep Coulee. Still trying to figure it out and match the topography with the large copy I have of the Luce map. The route as far as Luce matches, I believe, Dustin's text version of the route he thought Custer followed. Not down Cedar Coulee to MTC and MTC to the ford area. Addenda: with good magnifier or better attention, the dotted line marked "Custer's route" seems to form a pentagon, going from Luce to Ford B, then north to Deep Coulee, east to up and above Deep Coulee, then southeasterly across Nye-Cartwright to meet the orther part of the line that comes up from below Luce. And in the middle of this pentagon is a line marked "Gray Horse Troop" from "B" to meet the diagonal line from Luce. Roughly, the lines form a quadrangle on the left joined to a triangle on the right.
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Post by gocav76 on Apr 2, 2008 23:11:17 GMT -6
Are there any new updates on this book? Anything on incorrect dates or locations?
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Post by cefil on Apr 5, 2008 7:50:12 GMT -6
Are there any new updates on this book? Anything on incorrect dates or locations? Funny you should ask such a question, in such a way, because it just so happens there are A couple of more minor errors I picked up last night. On the Chapter reviewing Godfrey's map (p. 119), Godfrey is listed as having died on April 1, 1910. He in fact died in 1932. Also, in the same chapter, on page 123, the author mentions that a spring Godfrey noted on his map was located west of Benteen's position. The spring is actually located east of Benteen's position on the map.* cefil *Opinions expressed in this post are strictly unoriginal, and any resemblance to previous posts, no matter the location, is non-coincidental.
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