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Post by bubbabod on Apr 28, 2006 11:51:18 GMT -6
I visited Pinedale, Wy. to tour the Museum of the Mountainman and the location of where the old rendevous of the mountainmen were held. Their saying was, "Meet me on the Green," which meant in the spring or summer, after the trapping season was over, they'd all meet up in this valley shown here.
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Post by Diane Merkel on Apr 28, 2006 12:00:38 GMT -6
What a golf course! ;D
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Post by George Armstrong Custer on Apr 28, 2006 12:04:53 GMT -6
It's great that the locations of these gatherings haven't been lost Bubba, thanks for sharing the photo of one with us. I don't think the phrase is ever actually used in the movie, but we do see mountainmen 'meeting on the green' in the excellent Jeremiah Johson, one of the best things Robert Redford ever did.
Ciao, GAC
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Post by bubbabod on Apr 28, 2006 12:41:19 GMT -6
GAC, the photo is taken from a bluff called Trappers' Point, I think it was, and there is a large sign there telling of the history of it, which I can post if anyone is interested. Although I wasn't there for the annual rendeous they hold, I was disappointed that it is held in the local fairgrounds instead of "on the Green." Then again, they'd probably destroy the integrity of the valley, which I think is on private property. The photo here, if you didn't see a couple of power poles, I'm sure looks just like it did in the 1830's.
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Post by crzhrs on Apr 28, 2006 12:50:15 GMT -6
Did "meet me on the green" mean the Green River which was a famous rendezvous for many of the mt. men?
Yes . . . Jeremiah Johnson is one of my all-time favorites . . . and it depicts the mt. men AND Indians very realistically. No new age, PC stuff, just as it was. The fighting scenes between Johnson and the Indians were right one.
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Post by El Crab on Apr 28, 2006 12:58:07 GMT -6
Did "meet me on the green" mean the Green River which was a famous rendezvous for many of the mt. men? Yes . . . Jeremiah Johnson is one of my all-time favorites . . . and it depicts the mt. men AND Indians very realistically. No new age, PC stuff, just as it was. The fighting scenes between Johnson and the Indians were right one. Pick up a flat rock, skip it across Green River...
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Post by George Armstrong Custer on Apr 28, 2006 12:59:51 GMT -6
Bubba, Yes - put up the sign telling the history of this spot! I know little about the whole mountain-man story, but it's a fascinating subject. As you say, something of a shame that, for whatever reason, the site doesn't continue to host annual rendezous. That would be a real living link with the past.
Crzhrs - yes it's a fine movie in a lot of ways. As you say, it's quietly understated, just telling the story of that way of life. Those fight scenes you mention are all the more believable because of the lack of a thundering soundtrack score to 'heighten excitement'. Just the sounds of a life or death struggle between men in the middle of a wilderness. And the scenery is a joy to behold.............A much underrated film.
Ciao, GAC
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Post by crzhrs on Apr 28, 2006 13:02:42 GMT -6
Crab:
You lost me on that one . . .
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Post by bubbabod on Apr 28, 2006 13:14:15 GMT -6
crazyhorse, my young friend, El Crab, often loses me on his posts. Actually, I have all the respect in the world for crab. He's like a sponge in absorbing all this LBH stuff. Leaves me in the dust. And don't even get in a debate on sports and his beloved Dodgers.
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Post by crzhrs on Apr 28, 2006 13:16:42 GMT -6
Dodgers . . . Brooklyn or LA?
Give me Ebbets Field any time . . . and now LA has N-O-M-A-R. After his grand slam what has he done since? I think Theo Epstein made a brilliant move to trade him . . . since then Nomar has fallen apart.
Campanella must be turning in his grave!
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Post by El Crab on Apr 28, 2006 17:07:21 GMT -6
Dodgers . . . Brooklyn or LA? Give me Ebbets Field any time . . . and now LA has N-O-M-A-R. After his grand slam what has he done since? I think Theo Epstein made a brilliant move to trade him . . . since then Nomar has fallen apart. Campanella must be turning in his grave! LA. I'm too young to remember Brooklyn. First game I ever saw was at Dodger Stadium, while on vacation down there. But I don't love them blindly, the Dodgers. My favorite Dodgers player ever, btw, is Orel "The Bulldog" Hershiser. The Dodgers signed Garciaparra, they didn't trade for him. And your confusion stems from a line from Green River, by Creedence Clearwater Revival.
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Post by Lawtonka on Apr 28, 2006 18:31:06 GMT -6
Hey guys, I liked J Johnson as well. As a mater of fact, I was just in Target yesterday and they had the DVD for $6.50, I probably should go back and get it.
I had to dig this photo from down deep. It is the grave of Jeremiah Johnson. If I remember correctly, he was moved to Cody for reburial and Robert Redford served as Pallbearer in the ceremony. I think I took it in 1985, when we stopped overnight in Cody, Wyo. It was also my first ever trip to LBH.
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Post by YellowRose on Apr 28, 2006 21:42:49 GMT -6
This post is for El Crab. I too have long admired Orel Hersheiser, not only as a fine athlete but also as a fine individual and role model.
Who can forget when he performed "orel" surgery on the Athletics in the 1988 World Series? He was unstoppable.
Thanks for reminding me why I loved watching the Dodgers during that time!
Best wishes
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Post by El Crab on Apr 28, 2006 23:56:15 GMT -6
This post is for El Crab. I too have long admired Orel Hersheiser, not only as a fine athlete but also as a fine individual and role model. Who can forget when he performed "orel" surgery on the Athletics in the 1988 World Series? He was unstoppable. Thanks for reminding me why I loved watching the Dodgers during that time! Best wishes Hershiser owned the entire league that year. Especially his last 59 2/3 innings of the regular season, and his 5 starts and 1 relief appearance in the playoffs. One of the best single seasons by a pitcher in baseball history. Counting the first 8 innings of the playoffs, he went 67+ innings straight without giving up a single run. Just a magical season. I wonder if Jeremiah Johnson is 6.50 at my local Target stores.
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Post by bubbabod on Apr 29, 2006 0:13:50 GMT -6
Well, I've got to jump in on this Orel Hersheiser thing. Even though I am a Padre fan, since I live down here, I was a huge Hersheiser fan. I think the season where he beat the Oakland A's fearsome lineup of hitters was one of the greatest feats of pitching I've ever seen. And he was a man of real class. Great pitcher, class act.
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