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Post by yksin on Aug 7, 2007 12:05:31 GMT -6
Yksin, what stunning photos. The beaver dam one just took my breath away. Keep 'em coming! And -- welcome aboard. Thank you! Okay, you asked!... well, here's an around the corner pic of the Chugach Mountains as seen from, well, around the corner from where I currently live -- -- and here's from smack dab in their midst, along the trail to the Wedge in Powerline Pass. The little figure there midfield is my partner Rozz harvesting Labrador tea for the homemade gruit (a beer-like drink that uses Labrador tea, yarrow, & sweet gale instead of hops) that we made later that summer, & there's a little light speck amongst the line of dark green mountain hemlock in the back, which is our tent. Well, he has added a chuckle or two, of the "rolling one's eyes" variety, along the way. Tupperware Gossip? Dare I ask? -- Mel (aka Yksin)
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Post by yksin on Aug 7, 2007 12:09:10 GMT -6
I agree with you Diane about David. He could be very likable. But he did have a very child-like view of the battle of the LBH and didn't seem to be able to discuss it on any intelligent or reasonable level. I really can't figure out what books he's getting his 'facts' from. Terribly ill-read on the events and circumstances surrounding the battle. I'm really disappointed in him that he caused so much trouble for so many. Best I can tell, at least on Wikipedia, his method is, read the source, being careful to cherrypick only those smidgens of fact or supposition that meet his predetermined view of events -- sort of the same way that some religious fanatics will focus their entire religious efforts on just a few select verses of the Bible or other religious text, but completely ignore the rest of their good book. -- Mel
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Post by elisabeth on Aug 7, 2007 12:34:08 GMT -6
Gosh, that Powerline Pass photo is beautiful.
"Tupperware Gossip"? Anything to do with the private lives of the participants -- and of course, especially, anything suggesting that Custer didn't exactly lead the life of a monk.
Personally, I would stoutly maintain that this is the "real" history: that people's relationships and private motivations drive events every bit as powerfully as the Big Moments that end up in the history books. And there's loads of that in the 7th Cavalry. But -- try to convince the child of that? Noooooooo ... It's all "perfect marriage", "perfect band of brothers", "Weir as Noble Sacrifice to Custer's cause", and so on. All very sweet -- very pretty -- but little to do with the realities of life.
Tupperware Gossip Lives!
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Post by yksin on Aug 7, 2007 19:16:28 GMT -6
"Tupperware Gossip"? Anything to do with the private lives of the participants -- and of course, especially, anything suggesting that Custer didn't exactly lead the life of a monk. Ah okay got it! No, not a monk, by any means. Nor a husband of fidelity. Yes, it's what makes biography so interesting -- not just the whatever actions that make the people famous, but what drives them? History is a character-driven plot. I see there's a thread on Tupperware Gossip. I'll go check it out! -- Mel
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Post by Montana Bab on Aug 7, 2007 20:43:34 GMT -6
[quote author=yksin board=intro thread=1186428477 post=1186471835. Here's a pic of a beaver dam in McDonald Creek in Glacier National Park (for those who don't know Montana, Glacier's maybe an hour drive from my home town), a pic I took on a hike w/ my brother & sister-in-law when I was back home for a visit one November.
Alright, Mel (Yksin), You've gone and done it= made me homesick as all get out! That picture is so breath-taking. I miss my homestate so much. Planted down here in N.C., don't get to see any mountains to speak of! Alaska looks so inviting!
I was born feet first in one of those blink-and -you'll -miss- it towns (Klein) then moved to Roundup. That's where I grew up. It's 52 miles north of Billings.
I'm so glad you're on board here, looking forward to your posts. Bab
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Post by harpskiddie on Aug 7, 2007 22:10:49 GMT -6
Tupperware Gossip is currently being considered for first year studies at the University of Victoria [B.C.] at my instigation . and I have nominated Elisabeth Kimber to be Professor Emeritus In Absentia. I would have nominated Tricia as co-chair, but I didn't know her surname.
Gordie, silver earrings in Wichita, beaded moccasins in Tonopah; but I had you, so I just let them go.....
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Post by Tricia on Aug 7, 2007 23:37:04 GMT -6
Johnson-McDuffie, Gordie. I like the sing-songiness of it.
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Post by harpskiddie on Aug 8, 2007 0:22:13 GMT -6
It certainly does have a ring to it, Tricia.
Gordie, of all I left behind with you, along the lost highway.........................................................
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Post by crzhrs on Aug 8, 2007 8:56:40 GMT -6
I was at Glacier many moons ago. Did the Road to the Sky trip (is that what it's called?) and was magnificent. McDonald Lake was fabulous! One of the best national parks.
At the time there was a Grizzly bear rampaging and unfortunately a young girl was killed. We slept in the van that night!
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Post by yksin on Aug 8, 2007 13:09:42 GMT -6
It's called the Going-to-the-Sun Road -- beautiful long drive. Could your trip have been as long ago as 1967? One night that year there were two young women, in two different areas of the park, who were killed by grizzlies on the same night. One of them was near Granite Park Chalet, which is reached by a trail from Going-to-the-Sun Road. The story of that night is told in a book called Night of the Grizzlies by Jack Olsen. I know a couple of the people in that book -- my cousin Steve was one of those chased by the Trout Lake bear a month or so before the death there; and my high school U.S. government teacher was one of the seasonal rangers who helped hunt and kill the Granite Park Chalet bear (a sow who probably attacked in order to protect her young). Though there might have been later bear-related deaths -- there have been a number of stories over the years in the Hungry Horse News (my hometown weekly newspaper) and other area papers about bear maulings & such in the park. I don't think people are allowed to tent camp anymore at Avalanche Creek campground because of bear danger -- you've got to have a camper or trailer or motorhome. Okay... I do have a couple of Lake McDonald pics online. Here's one (that's one of my brothers there) -- And here's another -- we used to go to Lake McDonald soooo often when I was a kid to picnic & swim, & this picture is so evocative of those times for me -- Oh... if only I had a plane ticket, I'd go down there right now.... -- Mel
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Post by crzhrs on Aug 8, 2007 13:21:02 GMT -6
Going-to-the-Sun Road . . . that's it!
We were there in early October '76 . . . and did pick up a copy of the Hungry Horse News to boot!
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Post by markland on Aug 9, 2007 13:06:59 GMT -6
It's called the Going-to-the-Sun Road -- beautiful long drive. Could your trip have been as long ago as 1967? One night that year there were two young women, in two different areas of the park, who were killed by grizzlies on the same night. One of them was near Granite Park Chalet, which is reached by a trail from Going-to-the-Sun Road. The story of that night is told in a book called Night of the Grizzlies by Jack Olsen. I know a couple of the people in that book -- my cousin Steve was one of those chased by the Trout Lake bear a month or so before the death there; and my high school U.S. government teacher was one of the seasonal rangers who helped hunt and kill the Granite Park Chalet bear (a sow who probably attacked in order to protect her young). Though there might have been later bear-related deaths -- there have been a number of stories over the years in the Hungry Horse News (my hometown weekly newspaper) and other area papers about bear maulings & such in the park. I don't think people are allowed to tent camp anymore at Avalanche Creek campground because of bear danger -- you've got to have a camper or trailer or motorhome. <snip> -- Mel For anyone interested: www.hungryhorsenews.com/articles/2007/08/09/news/news03.txtBilly P.S. Welcome aboard Mel!
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Post by yksin on Aug 10, 2007 13:34:48 GMT -6
Wow, thanks for the link! I hadn't really thought about it being the 40-year anniversary of the "night of the grizzlies" but it's coming up on Monday.
Thanks for the welcome!
-- Mel
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Post by Melani on Aug 10, 2007 14:17:29 GMT -6
We passed by Glacier in about 1972, and had planned to camp there, but were told we couldn't bring our dog in because of the bears. So we ended up staying in a seriously economy-class room in the lodge--it was next to the janitor's closet in the basement, and only slightly bigger. We were on the way to relocate in California at the time, and so have never been back.
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