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Post by inkpaduta1981 on Sept 7, 2006 7:36:30 GMT -6
I'm searching Cheyenne photos about the Cheyenne war of 1878, Little's Wolf and Dull Knife's war. Thank you.
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 7, 2006 8:48:38 GMT -6
Just for the start: not a rare photo, but these were some of the Cheyenne participating in the war:  f.l.t.r.: Tangle Hair, Wild Hog, Strong Left Hand, Charlie Reynolds (interpreter), Old Crow, Noisy Walker, Porcupine, Blacksmith |
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Post by crzhrs on Sept 7, 2006 9:17:17 GMT -6
Charlie Reynolds . . . THE Charlie Reynolds of LBH? Never saw this photo . . . very nice!
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 7, 2006 9:33:38 GMT -6
Sorry!!! George Reynolds, NOT Charlie...  |
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Post by Diane Merkel on Sept 7, 2006 10:29:53 GMT -6
Dietmar, I hadn't seen that photo before either, so I'm glad you posted it. I would like to put as many photos as possible in my listings on the main website, so I have a few questions about the people shown above: - Is that Strong Left Hand (also known as Strong Left Arm) who was at LBH? I have him listed as "in the Custer fight," presumably meaning he was at Last Stand Hill fighting Custer's column. Any testimony of that?
- Was this photo taken after LBH? If so, then Noisy Walker is not the same as Catka, Noisy Walking, son of White Bull, correct?
- Is that Porcupine, the son of White Shield? I show him as attending the semi-centennial of the battle in 1926. Is there testimony that he participated in the battle?
Thanks! Diane |
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Post by gary on Sept 7, 2006 10:47:33 GMT -6
The photograph (and at least one more very similar view of the same group) was taken on 30th April 1879 on the steps of the courthouse at Dodge City, Kansas. The Cheyennes shown were awaiting trial for alleged offences dating back to September 1878. The case was dismissed in October 1879 when the prosecution failed to attend court for the trial.
Gary
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 7, 2006 16:12:49 GMT -6
Diane,
a few remarks about the Cheyenne in the photo above:
Tangle Hair, a half-Sioux by birth, was a dog soldier headman
Wild Hog, a headman of the Elkhorn Scraper warrior society, was the leader of all the warriors in Dull Knife´s band during the flight to the North
Strong Left Hand, also known as Strong Left Arm or simply Left Hand, was a headman of the Crazy Dog warrior society and was at the LBH
Noisy Walker or Noisy Walking (not the son of White Bull) or Old Man was a mature Northern Cheyenne dog soldier warrior
Old Crow or Crow was a council chief who had a bad reputation because he had scouted for the soldiers when Dull Knife´s village was destroyed in 1876
Porcupine (1847-1929) was also a mature dog soldier warrior, he was the son of White Weed, an Arikara and a Lakota woman, but was married to a Northern Cheyenne woman. He was later a Ghost Dance teacher and a council chief (see P. Powell)
Blacksmith was an older warrior
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Post by ephriam on Sept 7, 2006 20:50:50 GMT -6
The photographs of the Cheyenne prisoners were sold by the firm of Leonard & Martin of Topeka, Kansas, presumably the original photographers. (J. H. Leonard and his partner H. T. Martin). Here is another version of the same individuals. .jpg) |
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Post by Diane Merkel on Sept 7, 2006 21:09:48 GMT -6
Thank you Gary, Dietmar, and Ephriam!
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 8, 2006 5:53:21 GMT -6
Here is the same group with some of their women and children in a studio setting. I just recently saw this photograph in a german translated version of "Life of George Bent". It is interesting, I think, because it shows a rather young George Bent (interpreting at this trial), who looks more like an indian here than in other photos with mustache. Note that Old Crow, as one of the 44 council chiefs of the Cheyenne the highest ranking member of this group, sits in the center.  front row l.t.r.: Old Crow´s son, Wild Dod´s daughter second row, sitting: Porcupine, Old Crow´s wife, Old Crow, Wild Hog back row, standing: Old Crow´s daughter, Noisy Walker, Strong Left Hand, George Bent, Blacksmith, Tangle Hair, Wild Dog´s daughter Dietmar |
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Post by shatonska on Sept 8, 2006 5:57:42 GMT -6
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Post by shan on Sept 8, 2006 6:04:28 GMT -6
shatonska,
I have seen this photograph elsewhere, and if remember rightly, it describes the men as Arikara, with one of the men in the middle being Bob Tail Bull who was killed with Reno.
Shan
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Post by inkpaduta1981 on Sept 8, 2006 6:06:13 GMT -6
Dietmar, what is it the photo with women and children and Old Crow, Noisy Walker, Wild Hog, George Bent? I'ld like look it!!!!  |
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 8, 2006 6:12:36 GMT -6
About the Arikara photo: some sources say that the man on the left with the war bonnet is the Arikara Little Brave, who was also killed at LBH. Dietmar P.S.: Please be patient, I send the photo of the Cheyenne to Diane  (It's up in Reply No. 9 now. -- DM) |
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Post by shatonska on Sept 8, 2006 6:36:12 GMT -6
shatonska, I have seen this photograph elsewhere, and if remember rightly, it describes the men as Arikara, with one of the men in the middle being Bob Tail Bull who was killed with Reno. Shan ops , sorry , what a mistake , i have a bad headache , i missread Bob Tail Bull for BobTail horse |
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