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Post by Diane Merkel on Jul 6, 2006 23:52:04 GMT -6
The warriors honored by markers this June are listed at the bottom of this article: tinyurl.com/zdaam
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Post by AZ Ranger on Jul 7, 2006 8:45:22 GMT -6
Hi Diane
I am curious on where they put the markers when the death does not occur on the battlefield? It sounds like the markers will placed on the battlefield even if the death occurred elsewhere and that if the death occurred on private property the location would be be moved to the battlefiled on NPS land. It certainly makes it harder to look at the battlefield and try to draw conclusions. If the government knowingly can do this now then what has been done in the past regarding the markers either for convenience, accident, or on purpose?
AZ Ranger
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Post by bubbabod on Jul 7, 2006 9:28:32 GMT -6
Diane, I enjoyed your attached article about the placement of markers for the Lakota and Cheyenne warriors. As I was reading about who the first supposed warriors to be killed were, I was wondering about the Indian civilian deaths. Mainly Gall's wife and kids. They were killed early on and it's generally know, I think, where his camp was. Has anyone thought about placing markers for the known civilian deaths?
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Post by Tricia on Jul 7, 2006 11:06:00 GMT -6
Bubbabod--
I think the markers are mostly the work of the Friends of the Little Bighorn, and if the NA civilians are not on the list to one day be honored, perhaps you can put the idea out there! I did get a few photos of the newer markers this trip--will post soon.
Regards, Leyton McLean
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Post by Diane Merkel on Jul 14, 2006 23:28:29 GMT -6
AZ and Bubba -- Both of you posed great questions for which I don't have answers. John Doerner would be the best person to ask. I'll try to write to him this coming week unless one of you would like to do so. Leyton -- a gentle correction -- the Friends group raises money to support such projects, but they don't determine policies. I know it sometimes sounds otherwise!
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Post by Tricia on Jul 15, 2006 14:36:32 GMT -6
Diane--
;D
Regards, Leyton McLean
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Post by glenbow on Aug 3, 2006 12:48:07 GMT -6
The Billings Gazette article was interesting. Although it noted the death of Crow King's brother Swift Bear during Reno's flight from the timber, no mention was made of his other brother, White Bull (a Hunkpapa), who died about the same time. Richard Hardorff alluded in one of his books to the possibility that one or both brothers were killed by an Arikara scout just before Reno's fording of the river toward the bluffs. Does anyone have any other information regarding these men, and how they died?
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Post by shatonska on Aug 3, 2006 13:15:23 GMT -6
The Billings Gazette article was interesting. Although it noted the death of Crow King's brother Swift Bear during Reno's flight from the timber, no mention was made of his other brother, White Bull (a Hunkpapa), who died about the same time. Richard Hardorff alluded in one of his books to the possibility that one or both brothers were killed by an Arikara scout just before Reno's fording of the river toward the bluffs. Does anyone have any other information regarding these men, and how they died? if i remember well , one bull said they went down in the first charge , againt the line in the open or when soldier were in the wood , surely not during the retreat across the river at that time one bull was already coming back after having rescued one of the victims of the charge
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