Hump , fetterman fight

[shatonska]

please , i have always asked myself who was this Hump the Minneconjou leader in the Fetterman fight

i know the Minneconjou chief One Horn had a brother named Hump ,
a great warrior named Hump was a great friend of Crazy Horse but they were of the same age ( testified by Ch friends) , to young to be the leader in the Fetterman fight , maybe he was the son of Hump ( the brother of One Horn ) , CH's mother was Minneconjou , sister of One Horn

then there is the Hump Minneconjou chief at the Little big horn , about same age of CH , too young to be the leader at the Fetterman fight ,
but , did his father was the Hump brother of One Horn ? did this Hump brother of One Horn was the leader at the Fetterman fight ?

sorry for the confusion , hope someone has undestood and can solve this puzzle

[kingsleybray]

The war comrade and mentor of Crazy Horse was called High Backbone (Canku Wakatuya). Reckonings of his age differ: Charles Eastman stated that High Backbone was significantly older than Crazy Horse, while He Dog told Eleanor Hinman that the two men were about the same age. I suspect that High Backbone was maybe five-ten years older than Crazy Horse, born in the first half of the 1830s: that's a big differential in the crucial boyhood years, when we know that High Backbone was a teacher and mentor to Crazy Horse, less important in adult life.

This High Backbone was the strategic leader in the Fetterman battle, 1866. Indeed, one contemporary document indicates that he was the Miniconjou head chief that year. What I suspect that reflects is that in this crisis year over the Bozeman Trail issue the Miniconjou civil chiefs were 'pushed aside' and a war leadership placed in charge of tribal affairs. A similar process placed Red Cloud at the head of Northern Oglala affairs that year. High Backbone remained a prominent war leader (blotahunka) among the Miniconjou. He was killed by the Shoshones in fall 1870.

Just what the relationship was between High Backbone and the younger man Hump (Chahahake), born ca. 1847, is not entirely clear. Ten or fifteen years ago, Cheyenne River elders told me that they thought there was an uncle-nephew relationship there. Some people today state that it's a straight father-son situation, but the year-spans don't fit. Hump's father was named as Dogskin Necklace in one of the Walter Camp interviews. My own informants named the father as Mashes His Nail, which sounds to me like a classic nickname. This Hump was the one who fought at the Little Bighorn, surrendered to Miles, etc.

I'm not convinced that One Horn/Lone Horn and High Backbone were brothers in the Euro-American sense.

Kingsley

[shatonska]

Thanks
It seems One Horn had a brother named Hump , could this man be High Back Bone with a different translation ?
it could be , HBB took care of CH war education as the brother of CH's mother would have done