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Post by glenbow on Nov 5, 2007 13:39:22 GMT -6
The man identified as Louie Sitting Bull in the first couple of photographs from the Denver Public Library site appears to be wearing a ceremonial headdress that resembles a published description I have seen of the head gear worn by the (Midnight?) Strong Heart Society of the Hunkpapa Lakota. These ornate ceremonial items featured shaved buffalo bull horns, a head cap adorned with ermine, and a long trail of eagle feathers that sometimes reached to the ground. There is a popular photograph of Sitting Bull in which he wears what appears to be the same or very similar head piece, although it may have been taken at the same studio at about the same time. There is always the possibility that it was merely a prop the photographer employed in order to enhance the appearance of his subjects.
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Post by scrupp on Nov 8, 2007 4:48:25 GMT -6
thanks for that .Do you know what happened to Louis, (Place of residence , Did he change his name again ,Did he marry, Date of death ,). Louis Napoleon Mattler my great grand father married a number of times and moved a lot. I heard he was also known as Cheif Louis Prairie He was also known as a showman
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Post by ladonna on Nov 8, 2007 12:17:11 GMT -6
Louis Sitting Bull born 1855 died early 1900s on Pine Ridge he married woman named Paula with No children.
His real name is Little Soldier that is the only name change he had. he is not Sitting Bull's son but a son of Grey Eagle's sisters
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Post by Dietmar on Nov 9, 2007 6:40:05 GMT -6
Louis Sitting Bull is listed in the 1897 census record at Standing Rock. As Ladonna said, he was born in 1855. His Indian name is written as "Wamahe".
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Post by Dietmar on Nov 9, 2007 7:08:30 GMT -6
Surprisingly William Sitting Bull is listed 1898 in the Pine Ridge census.
He was there with Four Robes and his brother Deaf and Dumb:
"Nurcan" Deaf and Dumb, Head, male, age 31
"Sina Topa" Four Blanket, Aunt, female, age 51
"Tatanka Iyatanka" William Sitting Bull, Brother, male, age 23
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Post by ladonna on Nov 9, 2007 10:32:02 GMT -6
The Father of William Sitting Bull and Louis Sitting Bull is Bear Louse who was married to SEEN BY HER NATION
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Post by scrupp on Nov 9, 2007 14:10:17 GMT -6
Thank you for that . it looks like that is not the direction we have to look .Its very frustrating you think you have a path to follow then it disappears. Do you have any knowledge of LOUIS NAPOLEON MATTLER, (CHEIF) LOUIS PRAIRE,? Was a showman on the birth certificate of my grand father, was also said to be a healer/ doctor.My great grand mother was said to have been taught to shoot by anne oakely when with Buffalo Bill
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Post by ladonna on Nov 9, 2007 15:04:10 GMT -6
I would contact the Buffalo Bill musuem in Wyoming they have a list of all who were in the wild west show
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Post by scrupp on Nov 11, 2007 22:49:02 GMT -6
thank you for that information .I have emailed the museum and an waiting for a reply I keep forgeting that we are a day ahead down here.It looks like I will heve to look elsewhere for the family but not knowing were to look makes it hard .
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Post by jimbob69 on Dec 15, 2008 15:43:36 GMT -6
To Diane Merkel: it's been 3 or 4 years, but those Barry photos alleged to be Louie Sitting Bull and SB's daughter were: JOHN Sitting Bull (pictured with David Barry) and the girl was the wife of Louie Sitting Bull, not one of his daughters. You've probably rectified the situation by now, but better late than never. Incidentally, my info came directly from the prints, which are in Superior, WI (Douglas County Historical Society).
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Post by biggordie on Dec 15, 2008 16:33:53 GMT -6
jimbo:
Check out the new site for this type of information/discussion - see IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT, the first thread on this board. There is a great new forum on the NDN nations and peoples, populated by members who used to be here, and others, who are dedicated to research and study of exactly thew type of information you just posted here.
You should visit that site. your information might be new. There is a link in the thread mentioned.
Gordie
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Post by Diane Merkel on Dec 29, 2008 20:57:22 GMT -6
Thanks for the identification of those photos, Jimbo. We have not yet compiled the photos from this thread for the www.American-Tribes.com website that Gordie mentioned, so you're not too late. Thanks very much! Diane |
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Post by jam116 on May 20, 2009 15:12:49 GMT -6
LOUIS NAPOLEON MATTLER, (CHEIF) LOUIS PRAIRE
This is my Grandfather
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Post by Diane Merkel on May 20, 2009 19:10:23 GMT -6
Welcome, jam116!
Do you have any photographs of him or information that you would be willing to share?
Diane
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Post by jam116 on May 21, 2009 15:27:10 GMT -6
Yes
But I do not see a way to post photos...
If you want to send me a message to my email add I can send pics back.. ;D
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