An Indian named BlackDeer

[Marie]

Can anyone tell me if there was an Indian named BlackDeer who died fighting Gen. Custer? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

[Ephriam Dickson]

Hardorff, in his book, HOKAHEY! A GOOD DAY TO DIE! (1993), did a thorough study of the Indian casualities at the Little Big Horn.

He did not identify anyone by the name of Black Deer (or anything similar) as killed during the battle.

May I ask where your information is from? Perhaps folks can help you identify who this person is that you are interested in learning more about.

Ephriam

[Walt Cross]

Indian warriors often had several different names, they might be known as Noisy Walker to one band and Grey Earth Track to another. This is a real example. Black Deer could have died at LBH and be listed under an entirely different name, perhaps close or something all together different.

[Marie]

I'm trying to help out a friend. She says she knows he was killed fighting Custer but wants to know more. I didn't know Indians could be called different names. I don't know if she does either. Again thank you for any help you can give.

[bigpond]

Sorry,this is the best I have come up with to date,but it isn't your man,of course your man died at LBH,but will keep trying


Title Chief Black Tail Deer [art original] / Charles S. Stobie
Library DPL Western History and Genealogy Photo Collection
Authors Stobie, Charles S.
Electronic Access photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?20003191+CHS-X3191

Use Constraints Copyright restrictions apply to the use of this image. For more information or to obtain a photographic reproduction of this image, contact the Colorado Historical Society 1300 Broadway Denver, Colorado 80203.
Published [between 1890 and 1900]
Description 1 painting ; 64 x 76 cm. (25 x 30 in.)
Series Decorative and Fine Arts Department, Colorado Historical Society
Medium canvas oil paint.
Genre/Form Portraits. Oil paintings.
Subjects Indians of North America -- 1890-1900.
Persons as Subjects Black Tail Deer, Chief.
Note(s) Scanned image from transparency.
Title supplied.
Accession ID: H.650
Object ID: H.650.1
Colorado Historical Society.
Summary An oil portrait (three quarters view) of Chief Black Tail Deer. He wears a necklace, red tunic and pendant. The rectangular painting is unframed.
Physical Characteristics Imaged.
Holdings Library: DPL Western History and Genealogy Photo Collection
Collection: R7200031914

[shan]

Hi Bigpond, I tried to get into that website you gave for the image of Blackdeer, but my Safari engine wouldn't let me. Any ideas, was it the correct address?
Shan

[bigpond]

Shan,I will get back to you.

[twomoons]

The Chief Black Tail Deer that I found was from Utah. I believe it is the same one that bigpond referred to.

I also found a reference to a family whose last name is Black Tail Deer in the Rapid City Journal. I have the info if you think you would help.

You also may want to try this site, it might help:

www.montana.edu/wwwfpcc/tribes/sioux.html

Also this may be of intereste to some:

www.montana.edu/wwwfpcc/tribes/cheyenne.html

And for whatever its worth Blacktail Deer in Lakota is:
sin-TEH-sah-pah. The capital letters are stressed. This is where mis-translations between the languages can and does occur. Said and stressed a different way the word means something entirely different. These are of course the simple translations.

The name for Black Deer is:
TAH cha-SAH-pah

You might find something on the search engines, I haven't tried them. good luck. Twomoons.

[Don Blake]

What are the numbers after some of the entries for, Twomoons?

[twomoons]

Pardon me? I don't know what you mean, Mr. Blake. There are no numbers after my entries. At least I don't see any?

[Don Blake]

On the web page you directed people to, there are numbers in parentheses with some of the information e.g American Horse begins with a (14).

[twomoons]

Don, I really don't know. I have a theory, but nothing solid. I however have put in two email requests to find out. Neither of which has been answered. One to the montana.edu site and another to the Fort Peck site. Will advise if ever answered.

[Don Blake]

Thanks.