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Post by Diane Merkel on Apr 4, 2006 20:26:23 GMT -6
A friend just received the service records of John Martin from the National Archives. He would appreciate some help with this document:  Here are his questions: Down towards the bottom, under "Subsequent Service", it states:
"SS to John V. Hannon, Binghamton, N.Y. 4/6/54 dlw"
His date of birth is recorded as 1853, yet this shows '54. According to what I've read online, he spent most of his youth in Italy. I have no idea what the "dlw" stands for, nor does it make sense to me that the card shows "SS to Army & Navy Union USA 11/2/56." The dates of years are confusing me. I know some of you have a lot of experience deciphering such records. Please help if you can. Thanks! |
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Post by michigander on Apr 5, 2006 4:39:06 GMT -6
Dear Diane,
I found:
DLW Lead Work Differential 10433 - A 5% differential as a base-pay supplement for employees formally assigned lead-work duties by their supervisors and meeting the necessary criteria in the bargaining agreement. Lead-work differential is not computed at the rate of time and one-half for overtime or holiday work. See SEIU bargaining agreement, article 20.6.
Or,
I don't know if it's usefull, but there is an acronym in the US army DLW that means double labeled water. But I guess it fit more the first option...
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Post by markland on Apr 5, 2006 8:17:18 GMT -6
Not positive, but I think that the dates are 20th century dates, not 19th century.
As far as the "dlw", "FFB", and "jfn" following the year? The initials of the person who responded to the inquiry.
Best of wishes,
Billy
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Post by michigander on Apr 5, 2006 14:30:03 GMT -6
Are you sure? while dlw in italic if initials name?
I have also an interesting story about John Martin. Here in Italy, there is one "feud" between 2 cities, that claim to have been the born place of Martin: Apricale and Sala Consilina. The unicipality opened a true war for it, writing articles and shouting loud.
Sala Consilina claim he is born the 28 january 1853, while the city of Apricale claim Martin would have been born in 1841. Actually they still are contending the matter, both with reasonalbe proofs.
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Post by markland on Apr 5, 2006 15:26:42 GMT -6
"Are you sure? while dlw in italic if initials name?"
Hmmm, didn't see any italics. Here is the way I read it.
On June 6, 1954 a SS [subsequent service] was sent to John V. Hannon of Binghamton, NY by someone whose intials were/are "dlw".
On November 2, 1956 a SS was sent to the Army & Navy Union [club?] by "FFB".
It is the only thing that seems to make any sense in my opinion.
Best of wishes,
Billy
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Post by michigander on Apr 5, 2006 15:52:41 GMT -6
Sorry I wrong the word. I ment one name would have been written with capital letters.
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Post by Diane Merkel on Apr 5, 2006 16:01:13 GMT -6
I think you are correct about the 20th century dates, Billy. Perhaps it is the "chain of custody" of Martin's records before being permanently stored in the National Archives, but the term "Subsequent Service" is peculiar.
Does anyone know where Martin lived and/or worked in New York prior to his enlistment? Was it Binghamton?
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Post by markland on Apr 6, 2006 7:47:13 GMT -6
I've got a query into an archivist at the National Archives in hope he can shed some light on the questions we have.
Billy
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Post by michigander on Apr 6, 2006 8:59:31 GMT -6
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Post by markland on Apr 6, 2006 13:27:30 GMT -6
Definitive answer from NARA:
"I reviewed the card you linked to. The "subsequent service" refers to action or research done on the veteran's record by War Department clerks after receiving a request for information from an individual or organization. The initials are indeed those of the clerk who performed the research and answered the information request. This is a carry over from the practices of the Records and Pensions Office under Colonel Fred Ainsworth, beginning in the 1890's, in which each time a Civil War Veteran's compiled military service record was referenced for a search the initials of the requesting individual or office was entered, or the type of request was noted by initials.
In the case of this card, "SS" stands for "statement of service" for John Martin requested by a John V. Hannon, location, and date of his request.
By the way the, the "Army Navy Union" is a very prominent veterans group who probably requested a statement of service in 1956 to verify that John Martin had served honorably and was a veteran of good standing."
There, at least one mystery is cleared up!
Billy
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Post by michigander on Apr 6, 2006 15:35:06 GMT -6
Good work Billy!
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Post by Diane Merkel on Apr 7, 2006 8:33:20 GMT -6
Yes, thanks so much Billy. I knew you would solve this. No wonder you're an Expert!
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Post by markland on Apr 7, 2006 15:31:12 GMT -6
Yes, thanks so much Billy. I knew you would solve this. No wonder you're an Expert! Remember, it is not what you know but who you know! And in this case, I knew the expert and he should get the kudos. Best of wishes, Billy |
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Post by michigander on Apr 9, 2006 7:20:01 GMT -6
And you're also humble. You're a nice man Billy!
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