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Post by Dark Cloud on Mar 15, 2014 9:19:25 GMT -6
It could not be more clear, Tubman. I introduced a review and put it in quotes. How is that confounding? Now this: "Never to big to apologize..." No, Tubman. You mean 'Not too small to apologize' because apology requires bigness of spirit. 'I'm big enough to apologize...' is better. And, having said it, it is over and done. I would appreciate you taking some more time to read before condemning in the future. I don't understand the connection you imply between those sentences in your last post. You made an error because somehow this confused you: <Regarding Mails, one of several reviews on Amazon: "By Jeff Pert on May 22, 2000> followed by the excerpt where he claims 30 years of study. Not me. Him. I claim I and anyone can review Custerland books with 80% or much better accuracy without actually reading them, and I have written such reviews where the fact I haven't read them is prominently noted. Nobody finds error in them, which would be necessary to condemn the practice. People like to rewrite the same things. Here's an example. Find the errors. www.darkendeavors.com/boulder_lout/92.asp
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Post by quincannon on Mar 15, 2014 9:26:27 GMT -6
Let it be. It serves no useful purpose.
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Post by tubman13 on Mar 15, 2014 13:57:55 GMT -6
Hindsight being what it is, and participation aside a simple yes could have closed down this thread from the get go.
Regards, Tom
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Post by quincannon on Mar 15, 2014 14:03:00 GMT -6
Not only closed it but closed it accurately.
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Post by Margaret on Mar 15, 2014 14:07:46 GMT -6
Margaret, fuchs, all of us are entitled to our opinions and we arrive at them in different ways. I have not studied Native American Culture for 30 years as DC purports to have. I first heard the word Akicita from an NA in 1967. He explained it to me in the way he and his people used it. That was warrior or military society. I came here to learn more about the battle, for reasons of my own. I have picked up much in a short period of time, different perspectives, things I had previously read and forgotten, and a much better appreciation of all things LBH. Because of the members here voicing their opinions, sources, and general knowledge. we all learn. When DC voices his opinions as he does it made me go back pull out books I had not read in 20 years, not such a bad thing. A while ago Chuck said DC and I were pi$$ing up opposite sides of the same rope, as long as DC continues to hit the rope, there is no need to get pi$$ed, as it were. Remember about 50 miles west of where DC lives there is a small town where wild burro's wander the street from time to time. Regards, Tom ..regarding the Akicita, I'm not disputing that Tom...all I was saying from what I have read is that the term Akicita, in the historic period, was used to refer to camp police, who were temporarily appointed, usually drawn from members of military societies... but things change, terms evolve, and I think you will find that it's during the 20th century, the word Akicita has come to mean 'warrior'... ... attending a Lakota Pow Wow some years ago, at the Grand Entrance, the announcer said ''here come the Akicita, our Warriors''... and in came some men dressed in U.S. Army uniforms, some holding Indian staffs, others carrying U.S. flags... but something I have come to notice, and I think this affects everyone pretty much everywhere in any culture, is that people don't like to be told about their history, or what terms used to mean over a century ago...by some foreigner, or outsider, they take offence.. so you will find Indians today, and they are no exception, not taking too kindly to having something pointed out to them regarding historic terms, or customs, that have taken on a different meaning in today's world... .. a case in point is the much referred to 'wakan tanka'... often translated as 'the great spirit'... ask an Indian today what it means, and they most likely will tell you it's the equivalent to God... i.e. a singular male deity... even Elders don't always know, educated at boarding schools with non-Indian ideas.... but according to Lakota Star Knowledge, wakan tanka is a conglomeration of deities, created by Inyan [who was neither male or female]... .. a modern day Hunkpapa from Cheyenne River told me the above... ..another issue I'd like to raise, is that these military societies, and the culture in general, must have evolved over time... the written accounts with their many generalisations, tend to make one think that they were never changing.. yet the reservation system must have brought so much upheaval that it surely compromised the integrity of these groups, ...I suspect between the period 1866 and 1876 many would have disbanded... ..on the subject of Crazy Horse, which appears to be of interest here... someone might be interested in the impressions of a young Luther Standing Bear .. from his 1928 book ''My People the Sioux''...published when he was about 60, he relates when as a young boy [at the age of between 9 and 14 - his birth date is uncertain].... he recalls seeing Crazy Horse in his father's lodge after he came into the agency, and described him as being ''a little man of slight build''.. who had lighter hair than most Indians...and poorly dressed... ...he also wrote how his father told him the story of the battle with Custer, that when they rode into the soldiers... so many were panic stricken, that they shot up into the air and not into the Indians... ''many of them laid on the ground with their blue eyes open waiting to be killed''... but one got away on his horse and was chased, but got farther from the Indians only to draw his pistol and shoot himself in the head... ..apart from that it was rarely spoken of, in his household... ...he also remembers another Indian in his camp who had never touched a horse in his life... they called him 'the horse dreamer'... his wife had to make travois for him to ride in... ..so we see here an example of even a Sioux who couldn't ride... a rarity I would think...wouldn't you..?
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Post by tubman13 on Mar 15, 2014 14:13:30 GMT -6
Margaret, indeed I would. Excellent post, thank you.
Regards, Tom
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Post by AZ Ranger on Mar 16, 2014 12:14:04 GMT -6
So rare I would think as to be very suspect of such a statement. Touching a horse is easier than riding so I would think that is more likely than not to ocurr.
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