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Post by fred on Aug 10, 2013 6:32:12 GMT -6
I guess we can refer to this as the summer doldrums. Conversations and discussions seemed to have chased away almost everyone.
I have followed a couple of "threads" on the other boards, almost to the point of debating whether or not I should re-join. "Tunkasila" has an extraordinarily good grasp of things over there, though I personally do not agree with everything he writes... but then, that is what this is all about. He would be fun to engage with; too bad he doesn't do the same when he posts over here in his other persona... I am reasonably sure.
Then, just as I decide to re-join, "keogh" or Clair post something and that ends my fantasies. The latest is "keogh's" bland, matter-of-fact assertion that the Reno-Benteen command spent two hours on Weir Point and the continuing stupidity of troops sent to defend Finley-Finckle Ridge!! And this against every shred of viable evidence extant. Each of these positions can be traced back to his own particular prejudices and his hatred (too strong a word, I think) for certain people, both then and now... and I exclude myself from that, though I am sure jealousies overwhelm him at times.
Oh, well! Too bad.
Quite frankly, I think the usefulness of these boards has run its course. I miss a lot of old "friends," not the least of whom were Merkel and Markland. Between the "keoghs," the "herosrests," and even the Clairs of this world, sanity has been chased. I wish some of you had been able to join me and my friends in Montana/Wyoming this past June... AZ did for a couple days, as did "zekesgirl" and "Gerry," then you would have really had some interesting discussions... coming back for more. Even at our old NY/NJ round-tables, the talk flowed easily, the ideas and differences aired gentlemanly.... Maybe it was the beer. Maybe it was the threat that if you didn't agree with moi, I would punch you in the nose... all 148 pounds of me. Guess I am getting old.
Best wishes,
Fred.
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Post by quincannon on Aug 10, 2013 7:27:06 GMT -6
Agreed Fred. We never seem to progress beyond square 1 or 2. Some of that can't be helped as new people join. Also part of it is the preconceptions some bring that keep the discussion, argument really over the very basic stuff, that even when presented with fact can never seem to be shaken.
Maybe its time I start back on my own book on U S Army and Marine Corps division lineages. A complete one has never been written, and I suppose it is about time to finally complete it.
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Post by Yan Taylor on Aug 10, 2013 7:39:52 GMT -6
Fred/Chuck, the board has changed over the last year or so, a lot of people have moved on, I recently had a wander around the members section and names jumped out at me whilst I scrolled, El Crab and Hunkpapa are just two, even though topics are thin on the ground I don’t think that I could make the effort to re-join the other board, I don’t hold any grudge against anyone, it’s just that most of the questions I need to ask can be answered here, and if you think that this board is in the doldrums then if you took Billy Keogh out of the mix the other board would suffer too, because it is his solo mission to keep the flag flying, I know there are others but Keogh is the most prolific.
He has even tried to make up his own time lines, hmmm… funny how this happened just as you announced yours, but I suppose these things happen.
Chuck, if you need any help with your book give us a shout, and if any of you decide to throw towel in on this board please keep in touch.
Ian.
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Post by quincannon on Aug 10, 2013 8:47:57 GMT -6
Well Ian, first off the book will never get published. It is very different, and the nature of the subject matter is such that it is constantly in a state of change. I will eventually have probably twenty to twenty five copies printed and send them off to friends. The real problem is keeping it current, something the Army does not do. My idea was to have it spiral bound so that every so often, as changes occur, it could be updated and those same friends could be sent update pages as replacements, thereby keeping the contents as current as possible. It is not for profit, but rather for personal satisfaction.
It will contain the lineage of the unit, where it was formed at when and all the changes that have occurred to it, activations, reorganizations, inactivations since the time the unit was first constituted (placed on the rolls of the Army)
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Post by alfakilo on Aug 13, 2013 15:53:28 GMT -6
Still here but topics that draw my attention have been a bit slow lately. That and there are a couple of posters who I ignore just on general principles and when they seem to participate more so than in the past, well, it detracts from the conversation.
Wife and I are planning on a road trip in Sept where we'll again visit the battlefield. I'm really looking forward to it given the huge amount of info and help that I've gained from this forum. I'll be far more appreciative this time around.
AK
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Post by wild on Aug 20, 2013 10:21:52 GMT -6
The parish is small;inhabited in the main by ex US service men.These are divided into officers and enlisted men,The main problem is the officers bring their rank with them.It sets the tone from the getgo.Add to this their facist background.All militaries are facist.Its a uno duce uno voce parish.Question anything these prima donnas say and barrack latrine come flying your way.Not practiced in the art or should I say science of debate they resort to the only thing they know ;personal abuse either that or sulking.They have seen off quiet a few pretenders and then they ask hey where's everybody?
DC gave a great description of them lately but then lost his nerve and took down the post.
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Post by alfakilo on Aug 23, 2013 10:17:10 GMT -6
QED
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Post by quincannon on Aug 24, 2013 2:24:29 GMT -6
2CSB
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Post by AZ Ranger on Aug 24, 2013 8:01:56 GMT -6
KF3981
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Post by montrose on Aug 24, 2013 8:45:11 GMT -6
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Post by AZ Ranger on Aug 25, 2013 8:46:29 GMT -6
Good job William. That was my radio sign off for 30 years. Now we just quit talking. Its hard not to say KF3981 though since it seems appropriate.
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Post by wild on Aug 31, 2013 13:59:46 GMT -6
FU2
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Post by sfchemist on Sept 2, 2013 20:36:11 GMT -6
The parish is small;inhabited in the main by ex US service men.These are divided into officers and enlisted men,The main problem is the officers bring their rank with them.It sets the tone from the getgo.Add to this their facist background.All militaries are facist.Its a uno duce uno voce parish.Question anything these prima donnas say and barrack latrine come flying your way.Not practiced in the art or should I say science of debate they resort to the only thing they know ;personal abuse either that or sulking.They have seen off quiet a few pretenders and then they ask hey where's everybody? DC gave a great description of them lately but then lost his nerve and took down the post. I must disagree with you here, and to set the record straight I am one of those enlisted men you speak about and like everyone else I have my own unique set of life experiences. I spend most of my time on this board 'listening' to the experts, officers or EM, and have never found them to be prima donnas. There are other non-military members here who have proven very valuable in my history lessons---I won't mention any names but the initials of one such member are Dark Cloud. Yes, DC has taken me to the cleaners but I probably deserved it. I've had some of my comments criticized by the best on this board, but so what? The criticisms are always constructive unless one takes offense and stubbornly maintains a position not substantiated by the facts. Now as far as bringing their "rank with them" I've never found that to be the case either unless a member is trying to establish his/her credentials on a certain topic. It is not only fair, but appreciated by this member if someone does explain their military background and experience. Hell, I have very little and I welcome hearing from the more experienced members on this board. I don't always agree with them, but I do value and listen very carefully to what they are saying. I enjoy reading about this interesting battle and only live two hours away from the frequently visited battlefield. I typically print out what some of our experienced members have to say and take these notes with me when I'm at the battlefield---and let me say that when you have the notes in front of you, and are standing on the very ground where this action took place, these guys know what the hell they are talking about and I don't. I come here to learn and not get in a pissing contest.... |
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Post by quincannon on Sept 2, 2013 21:40:50 GMT -6
sfchemist: Speaking as a very proud and most fortunate former enlisted man and noncommissioned officer, thank you
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Post by wild on Sept 3, 2013 0:39:49 GMT -6
sfchemist
I note that you have 47 posts and you state these guys know what the hell they are talking about and I don't.
But I'm sure your observation is well intentioned and it is appreciated.
Thank you
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