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Post by Diane Merkel on Feb 16, 2006 13:06:22 GMT -6
Neil Magnum apparently hosted an experiment in 1986 during which he had psychics handle objects from the battlefield. The NPS newsletter Courier supposedly had an article about it. Does anyone have a copy of that article or know where the NPS newsletter archives can be accessed?
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Post by Jim on Feb 16, 2006 15:54:56 GMT -6
Diane,
I got this info. on that article from the NPS, although I don't have a copy:
"In touch with the past...psychometry at Custer Battlefield", Courier: Newsmagazine of the National Park Service (1986) vol. 31 no. 10, page 9, by Don Rickey.
Jim
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Post by Diane Merkel on Feb 16, 2006 21:19:15 GMT -6
Thanks, Jim. That should help!
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Post by Melani on Mar 29, 2006 18:36:45 GMT -6
To get a copy of the article, email nancy_flanagan@nps.gov. I just got mine, and was waiting to see if it worked before posting the info. You need to provide a mailing address, but make the request by email.
The article is really fascinating. They had a psychic who knew little about the battle handle objects without telling him anything about them, and he described his impressions. In at least one case, he described the exact position where the item had been found. The whole thing is quite eerie and compelling.
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Post by Diane Merkel on Mar 29, 2006 21:54:07 GMT -6
Thanks, Melani!  |
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Post by Treasuredude on Apr 4, 2006 20:57:23 GMT -6
Melani--
Many thanks for the tip. I received my copy today.
Scott
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Post by Diane Merkel on Apr 4, 2006 21:45:12 GMT -6
Me, too. Ms. Flanagan is very efficient!
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Post by Melani on Apr 19, 2006 23:49:22 GMT -6
I bet she's wondering at a sudden run of requests for that article!
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Post by Jas. Watson on Apr 20, 2006 14:11:45 GMT -6
Psychometry is always a favorite subject of mine. Although I'm getting a little off topic here I'd like to mention that I was able to try an experiment of my own--with cool but totally unrelated objects (I'm able to get my hands on some neat stuff). There were three psychics who were willing to try this so I pulled some of what I thought might be some really 'hot' artifacts: among which were a personal object of Adolph Hitler's, and a honest to gosh piece of the Titanic. Now one would just HAVE to get something from them right? I was thinking more in terms of destruction, terror, crowds, or something from one...and dark, cold, wet, sadness, for the other.
Wow, was I disappointed--got nothing remotely related to the historic artifacts. Bah, Humbug!
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Post by Diane Merkel on Apr 20, 2006 21:06:38 GMT -6
Three psychics and all of them missed on those items? I'm surprised and disappointed.
Do you mind saying what the Hitler and Titanic items were and what the psychics said about them?
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Post by Jas. Watson on Apr 21, 2006 9:45:05 GMT -6
Yes, I was very disappointed too because I would really like to believe that such stuff could be somewhat dependable--could you imagine what museums and collectors could do with that sort of talent??
The two objects in question were an item of silverware known to be used by Hitler in the Reichschancellory (had his bloody monogram and eagle on it even!), and the second piece was a section of grabline from lifeboat number six (launched at 12:55), very well documented.
Each piece was accompanied with photodocumentation in a sealed opaque envelope to be opened after the experiment. The Psychics were very surprised and dismayed too...I don't think they expected such dynamic objects.
I don't really remember exactly what their answers were--apparently nothing memorable...but what could you say of a broken butter knife and couple inches of old rope?
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Post by Diane Merkel on Apr 21, 2006 9:49:29 GMT -6
Hmmmm . . . I would hope they would have gotten something! Were they blindfolded? Could they see the eagle and the monogram?
Sorry for all of the questions, but I find the subject fascinating.
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Post by d o harris on Apr 21, 2006 18:06:08 GMT -6
First off, I am not crazy, and I don't believe in ghosts. Other worldly apparitions are self induced. But.
In 1968, during my first visit to the battle field my wife, children and I camped at Crow agency. We had spent most of the day touring the battlefield. My family was asleep in the tent and I sat at a camp table with Coleman lantern reading from books I'd acquired at the visitor's center. Sometime around 2:00 A. M. I had a question I thought could be easily resolved by a trip to the field.
I drove down the highway until I arrived at the position I felt was just behind-South of--Reno's skirmish line. I parked the car on the shoulder and walked toward the river. At that time of night there was no one tell me I couldn't go there.
I saw nothing except in my mind's eye, but I saw enough therein to convince me I was where I did not belong, and I heard, or imagined hearing, enough to validate that perception.
If you want a psychic experience go there at night. Alone. With nothing but your imagination.
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Post by dogsoldier on Apr 21, 2006 19:43:58 GMT -6
This is a true Ouija Board experience I had circa 1989. It is not Custer related, but it does have to do with the Old West. My then girlfriend and I were playing the game. Her friend was there to take notes. I asked the Board who I was in my past life. Let me state here that my girlfriend wouldn't have known a Kiowa from a Cherokee or a Cheyenne from a Pawnee. Didn't know and didn't care. I did not make the little piece move that spells out the words (you just have to trust me on this because I have nothing else to give but my word), and again, even if my girlfriend had wanted to move the viewfinder [sorry, I don't know the technical name for this piece], she had no idea of one Indian tribe from the next.
The Board spelled out for me that I was a Blackfoot warrior and was born in 1850 and was killed in 1868 trying to recapture horses from Sioux raiders. I asked if my family took vengeance. The Board replied, "No, what would have been the use." I was taken aback by that reply but that's what happened. I used to have the notes to this Ouija Board session, but I can't find them. I have looked on several occasions. We had other truly incredible experiences that I am willing to share if anyone wants to hear them. One in particular I will NEVER FORGET. But the above is my only western themed experience. Funny thing is, ever since about the age of 3 or 4 I have been addicted to Indians and the Old West. Believe what you want and think what you will, I know what happened and wouldn't believe it if I didn't experience it firsthand. I wonder if anyone ever tried to contact Custer with a Ouija Board. And again, I had a couple of additional strange experiences with the board if anyone is interested.
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Post by Diane Merkel on Apr 22, 2006 0:19:15 GMT -6
I received a Ouija Board the Christmas I was nine years old. My aunt, who should have known better, let me ask when I would die. I will never forget the answer: March 30, 2006. I am pleased to tell you that I am not dead, but I have to admit that I was a bit nervous that day! In fact, I considered writing you all a "good-bye" message the night before, just in case.
I have had positive experiences with the board. My mother is particularly good at getting information from it, much of which has been verifiable to the point of being spooky, but she won't do it any more. I would be interested in other experiences you have had, dogsoldier.
D O, there is a man who is actively seeking psychic experiences related to the Little Big Horn, and I'm sure he would love to hear from you. He is not a crank. He is writing a book that will be published by Upton & Sons. While I was speaking to Frankie Upton one day, I asked her about it, and she verified that they are, in fact, working with this man. Let me know if you are open to hearing from him.
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