Post by Diane Merkel on Jun 15, 2022 9:01:12 GMT -6
I received a request for additional information about Hobert Ryder. The email included the information from my website: littlebighorn.info/Cavalry/NameR.htm#HobertRyder. It also included a photo of a man I believe was Isaac Fowler:
On these boards, I found two posts that referenced Ryder. One was by Fred Wagner:
➢ The following men were assigned Special Duty for all or part of the campaign:
Brainard, PVT George—Orderly for General Terry.
Murphy, SGT Robert L. — Orderly for General Terry.
O’Toole, PVT Francis—Orderly for General Terry.
Lynch, PVT Patrick—Orderly for General Terry.
Hughes, SGT Robert H. — Orderly-trumpeter for George Custer.
Dose, TMP Henry C. — Orderly-trumpeter for George Custer.
Martini, TMP PVT Giovanni—Orderly-trumpeter for George Custer.
Burkman, PVT John W. — George Custer’s orderly/striker.
Goldin, PVT Theodore W. — LT Cooke’s HQ orderly/messenger.
Callahan, CPL John J. — Hospital orderly and Dr. Lord’s assistant.
Abbotts, PVT Harry—Dr. DeWolf’s attendant.
Ryder, PVT Hobart—Hospital orderly for Dr. Porter.
Davern, PVT Edward—MAJ Reno’s orderly.
McIlhargey, PVT Archibald—MAJ Reno’s striker.
Korn, PVT Gustave—CPT Keogh’s orderly.
Kelly, PVT Patrick—CPT Keogh’s striker.
Pickard, PVT Edwin H. — CPT Yates’ orderly, then assigned to packs.
Deihle, PVT Jacob—CPT Moylan’s orderly.
Lorentz, PVT George—CPT French’s orderly.
Klotzbucher, PVT Henry—CPT French’s striker.
Sanders, PVT Charles—CPT Weir’s orderly.
Dorn, PVT Richard B. — CPT McDougall’s orderly.
Penwell, TMP George B. — LT Godfrey’s orderly, then Reno’s trumpeter.
Rapp, PVT John—LT McIntosh’s orderly/striker.
Hackett, PVT John—LT Wallace’s orderly.
Harrison, SGT Thomas Wilford—LT Edgerly’s orderly.
McVeigh, TMP David—LT De Rudio’s orderly.
Strode, PVT Elijah T. — LT Varnum’s orderly.
Trumble, PVT William—LT Hodgson’s orderly.
Kramer, TMP William—Possibly LT Harrington’s orderly.
Clear, PVT Elihu F. — LT Hare’s orderly.
Klawitter, PVT Ferdinand—Libbie Custer’s orderly at Fort Lincoln.
The Goldin assignment is questionable, but no one disputed his claim.
Best wishes,
Fred.
Another was by John McIntosh:
Please post if you can add more information and/or confirm who is depicted in the photo above.
Thank you!
Diane
On these boards, I found two posts that referenced Ryder. One was by Fred Wagner:
➢ The following men were assigned Special Duty for all or part of the campaign:
Brainard, PVT George—Orderly for General Terry.
Murphy, SGT Robert L. — Orderly for General Terry.
O’Toole, PVT Francis—Orderly for General Terry.
Lynch, PVT Patrick—Orderly for General Terry.
Hughes, SGT Robert H. — Orderly-trumpeter for George Custer.
Dose, TMP Henry C. — Orderly-trumpeter for George Custer.
Martini, TMP PVT Giovanni—Orderly-trumpeter for George Custer.
Burkman, PVT John W. — George Custer’s orderly/striker.
Goldin, PVT Theodore W. — LT Cooke’s HQ orderly/messenger.
Callahan, CPL John J. — Hospital orderly and Dr. Lord’s assistant.
Abbotts, PVT Harry—Dr. DeWolf’s attendant.
Ryder, PVT Hobart—Hospital orderly for Dr. Porter.
Davern, PVT Edward—MAJ Reno’s orderly.
McIlhargey, PVT Archibald—MAJ Reno’s striker.
Korn, PVT Gustave—CPT Keogh’s orderly.
Kelly, PVT Patrick—CPT Keogh’s striker.
Pickard, PVT Edwin H. — CPT Yates’ orderly, then assigned to packs.
Deihle, PVT Jacob—CPT Moylan’s orderly.
Lorentz, PVT George—CPT French’s orderly.
Klotzbucher, PVT Henry—CPT French’s striker.
Sanders, PVT Charles—CPT Weir’s orderly.
Dorn, PVT Richard B. — CPT McDougall’s orderly.
Penwell, TMP George B. — LT Godfrey’s orderly, then Reno’s trumpeter.
Rapp, PVT John—LT McIntosh’s orderly/striker.
Hackett, PVT John—LT Wallace’s orderly.
Harrison, SGT Thomas Wilford—LT Edgerly’s orderly.
McVeigh, TMP David—LT De Rudio’s orderly.
Strode, PVT Elijah T. — LT Varnum’s orderly.
Trumble, PVT William—LT Hodgson’s orderly.
Kramer, TMP William—Possibly LT Harrington’s orderly.
Clear, PVT Elihu F. — LT Hare’s orderly.
Klawitter, PVT Ferdinand—Libbie Custer’s orderly at Fort Lincoln.
The Goldin assignment is questionable, but no one disputed his claim.
Best wishes,
Fred.
Another was by John McIntosh:
He [Vern Smalley in Little Bighorn Mysteries] talks about Private Henry Ryder PROBABLY being in the valley and hilltop fights, as reflected in both MEN WITH CUSTER and THEY RODE WITH CUSTER. Both Hammer and Carroll based their conclusion in their respective works on Pvt. Daniel Newell's story published 54 years after the battle in which he mentions a Corporal named St. Rider who helped him after he was wounded in the valley fight. Since no one named St. Rider shows up in Newell's company (M), the authors assume he has forgotten Ryder's actual name.
Smalley then goes on to say that Hardorff has concluded differently about Ryder, placing him on board the FAR WEST at the time of the battle, basing this on a copy of written hosptial orders. Smalley points out that these orders are July 1 but Hardorff apparently concluded these orders must have just reestablished a role he had been previously assigned.
Smalley then goes on to say that Hardorff has concluded differently about Ryder, placing him on board the FAR WEST at the time of the battle, basing this on a copy of written hosptial orders. Smalley points out that these orders are July 1 but Hardorff apparently concluded these orders must have just reestablished a role he had been previously assigned.
Please post if you can add more information and/or confirm who is depicted in the photo above.
Thank you!
Diane
