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Post by greathunter on Jan 25, 2022 19:23:23 GMT -6
Given a lot of thought to what took place on june the 25th 1876.
And i think things were not the way
Everyone likes to think they were.
Folks now this is just my opinion,
So please bear with me because i had to really, really (as crazy as this may seem) try to go back in my mind to that very day, as part of the seventh and put myself in thier shoes so to speak...
I firmly believe that no one on that fateful day except maybe one soldier had any thought as to almost everyone getting wiped out in a slaughter..more over, i suspect that everyone from the soldiers, Custer, William Winer Cooke, and even Tom custer and boston thought this was going to be another Washita.
EXCEPT IT WASN'T.....
they quickly found out that they WERE WAY IN OVER THIER HEADS (CUSTER HAD TO HAVE THOUGHT THAT AT SOME POINT, PROBABLY ASRIGHT IN FRONT THEY MADE THIER DESPERATE RUN TO CUSTER HILL)
IT WAS A COMPLETE AND UTTER ROUTE OF THE SEVENTH, FEAR WAS SO THICK YOU COULD PROBABLY SMELL IT.
AND THE MORE MEN THAT GOT KILLED, THE WORSE THE PANIC BECAME.
IMAGINE IF YOU WILL, SOLDIERS,OFFICERS, YOUR FRIENDS, GETTING HACKED UP WITH TOMAHAWKS,
IN FRONT OF YOU, BEHIND YOU,
OTHERS GETTING SHOT FULL OF ARROWS,
BULLETS, BLOOD, BRAINS, GORE..
SOME GOT SO SCARED THEY JUMPED UP TO
TRY AND MAKE A RUN FOR IT, ONLY TO BE CUT DOWN IN A BRUTAL FASHION.
AND REALIZING YOUR PROBABLY NOT GOING TO MAKE IT BACK HOME TO YOUR FAMILY..
NO, IM MY OPINION NO GALLANT LAST STAND WAS MADE. GUYS WERE PISSING THEMSELVES TRYING TO ESCAPE..AND IT STARTED FROM THE ABSOLUTE BEGINING.
700 SOME ODD SOLDIERS VS 1500- 1800 BRAVE WARRIORS...NOPE...A ABSOLUTE TERRIFYING ROUTE FOR LIFE AND LIMB
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Post by backwater on Jan 26, 2022 22:37:09 GMT -6
CAPITAL LETTERS ANNOY me like a car alarm at 3am. All this has been gone over and over, and will be. Read the NA (ouch) stories, body location maps, and writings of the people that had to look the mess over and clean it up. I think they were scared too. They were numerically screwed, stuck with single shots and six shooters that take a long time to reload besides being fatigued. Why did Custer attack, he felt he had to or lose any chance of ending the campaign. I think he felt he had no choice. There was a plan and it was up to him to stay with it. LOts of possible motives have been put out by smarter people then me. Read up on them if your really into the history. Fascinating, frustrating and i never feel satisfied with the LBH, avoided it for years. Love the history not open ended mystery, hate fiction let alone "historical" fiction.
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Post by greathunter on Jan 27, 2022 0:28:56 GMT -6
Custer did think he had no choice, he wanted the whitehouse..plain and simple and he was going to use this campaign to get back in the good graces of the war dept and Washington DC..
It doesnt take a smart man to understand what went on that fateful day.
Could they have won the day ? I think so, 90 percent sure..
The scouts that left custer and the 7th that day were smart..and they lived..the old saying, know when your beat? Rings true
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Post by fred on Jan 27, 2022 16:45:02 GMT -6
Custer did think he had no choice, he wanted the whitehouse..plain and simple and he was going to use this campaign to get back in the good graces of the war dept and Washington DC.. This is completely incorrect. There is absolutely no proof George Custer was interested in being president. Do you have any reliable contemporary evidence he wanted to be president? if not, this is just your opinion... for what it is worth. If that is true, it has certainly befuddled an awful lot of pretty smart people. Okay... please tell me-- and everyone reading this-- how you defeat 3,500 warriors, only 2,072 of whom were ever involved in the fighting, with 607 troops. I guess so. You made some good points, but these are not them. I also like your participation here. You add some much needed spice to these boards. Keep at it, my boy. Best wishes, Fred. |
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Post by fred on Jan 27, 2022 16:54:53 GMT -6
Why did Custer attack, he felt he had to or lose any chance of ending the campaign. I think he felt he had no choice. There was a plan and it was up to him to stay with it. Custer had a choice and he knew it: stick to the plan. There was, as you said, a plan, and Custer ignored it. That is a conscious choice. The problem with so much of this battle is a lack of understanding of its prelude. The battle of the Little Big Horn started long before the actual fighting. I have always said it really started of June 22, but one can make a case that it began even before that. There was a tremendous amount involved long before the actually fighting, that helped determine the outcome. Best wishes, Fred. |
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Post by wild on Jan 27, 2022 19:21:57 GMT -6
Custer had no choice.
He did not beg to regain command of his regiment just to play a safe passive role.
Terry gave him an ace .....a free hand of course he was obliged to play it.
And once he committed Reno there was no turning back.
Best Regards
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Post by noggy on Jan 28, 2022 2:54:51 GMT -6
This is completely incorrect. There is absolutely no proof George Custer was interested in being president. Do you have any reliable contemporary evidence he wanted to be president? if not, this is just your opinion... for what it is worth. Unless I'm mistaken, which is a recurring thing, his father had some pretty lofty plans for his son's future, among them running for President. Can't remember where I read it but probably common knowledge for the people in here. That of course doesn't mean much since I' sure the number of parents who dreamt of seeing their boy being President can me measured in the hudnreds of thousands since Washigton first stepped up. Never read anything fro GAC himself about a political career. His handling of the Belknap/Grant problem showed he might have struggled with handling the political game...much easier when people just shoot at you. All the best, Geir |
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Post by noggy on Jan 28, 2022 2:57:12 GMT -6
The scouts that left custer and the 7th that day were smart..and they lived..the old saying, know when your beat? Rings true Well, they were told they could leave since they had done their job. They did't just "leave" because it was the smart thing to do. Turned out to be a good thing for them, of course. Boyer probably wished he joined them later on that day. All the best, Noggy |
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Post by greathunter on Jan 29, 2022 18:52:39 GMT -6
Custer did think he had no choice, he wanted the whitehouse..plain and simple and he was going to use this campaign to get back in the good graces of the war dept and Washington DC.. This is completely incorrect. There is absolutely no proof George Custer was interested in being president. Do you have any reliable contemporary evidence he wanted to be president? if not, this is just your opinion... for what it is worth. If that is true, it has certainly befuddled an awful lot of pretty smart people. Okay... please tell me-- and everyone reading this-- how you defeat 3,500 warriors, only 2,072 of whom were ever involved in the fighting, with 607 troops. I guess so. You made some good points, but these are not them. I also like your participation here. You add some much needed spice to these boards. Keep at it, my boy. Best wishes, Fred. |
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