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Post by Nape Sintekiya Mani on Apr 3, 2021 18:18:36 GMT -5
Hello folks:
Is there anyone who can give me some information on PVT George Horn, Company D? The only Spanish soldier of the 7th.
Best wishes from Spain,
Pachi
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Post by noggy on Apr 5, 2021 15:05:19 GMT -5
You could check an online version of Wagner's "Participants", if one is available. Bornin Andalusia in 1844 this site says 43 www.littlebighorn.info/Cavalry/NameH.htm) , D Company, 5 foot 6 tall, enlisted in 72. |
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Post by Nape Sintekiya Mani on Apr 5, 2021 18:54:03 GMT -5
Thanks a lot noggy. I already knew that. She was asking if anyone knew when and where she retired. If anything else was known about him. Anyway, thank you very much for your kindness
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Post by herosrest on Apr 6, 2021 2:59:47 GMT -5
There was previous enquiry - Sep. 2004. The enlistment would have completed Jan 11, 1877. So, where were Company D then? Who commanded the company. How did a Spaniard come to be Mr. Horn? You could try asking 7th Cavalry, Company DI had an off the wall thought - The Company CO was Thomas Benton Weir (Captain) who was detached and serving in New York City, when he passed away on December 9, 1876. I believe that Maj. Reno was in New York at that time. Not sure about Benteen. Perhaps, just possibly, George Horn was Weir's orderly. I dont know any researchers now with access to 7th Cavalry records. The current generation are all moving to Fiddler's Green. You might try an enquiry with Friends of the Little Bighorn. I'd guess the Spaniard's Inn might suit Horn better. Regards. There is an excellent researcher HERE with useful contacts but a UK bent, as you can see. If you are related, then you could make a request through your Spanish Embassy, or to the EU link although I wouldn't hold your breath with this one, bearing Covid-19 in mind and the cluster shambles over there. Officer's Returns. |
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Post by Visitante on Apr 6, 2021 14:10:33 GMT -5
Hello folks: Is there anyone who can give me some information on PVT George Horn, Company D? The only Spanish soldier of the 7th. Best wishes from Spain, Pachi There’s a lengthy commentary about Pvt. George Horn in the website of a Spanish magazine of military history which recently devoted an issue to the LBH campaign. Here is the link, the Pvt. Horn story is at the very bottom of the page: www.despertaferro-ediciones.com/2020/el-7-o-de-caballeria-en-little-bighorn/ |
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Post by Nape Sintekiya Mani on Apr 6, 2021 18:03:47 GMT -5
Hello folks: Is there anyone who can give me some information on PVT George Horn, Company D? The only Spanish soldier of the 7th. Best wishes from Spain, Pachi There’s a lengthy commentary about Pvt. George Horn in the website of a Spanish magazine of military history which recently devoted an issue to the LBH campaign. Here is the link, the Pvt. Horn story is at the very bottom of the page: www.despertaferro-ediciones.com/2020/el-7-o-de-caballeria-en-little-bighorn/Muchas gracias, eso era lo que buscaba |
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Post by Nape Sintekiya Mani on Apr 7, 2021 10:47:44 GMT -5
I have already found the information I was looking for on George Horn. It was on the Spanish military history website Desperta Ferro.
George Horn was born in Malaga (Spain) in 1843.
He signed for the US Army on January 12, 1872 in New York. He was posted to 7th Company D in Chester (South Carolina).
Later his Company was between 1872 and 1873 in Alabama and Tennessee occupied in "reconstruction duty".
He then he was posted to Captain Keogh's Company I to Minnesota and Dakota as an escort for the International Commission that established the border with Canada in 1873 and 1874.
He was stationed at Fort Totten until in April 1876 he marched to Fort Abraham Lincoln to participate with the entire regiment in General Terry's expedition against the Sioux.
After Captain Weir's death, he was left in command of D Company, Lieutenant Edgerly. Edgerley recommended Troopers Henry Holden and George Horn for the Medal of Honor for bringing ammunition to front-line men under excruciating fire and showing no fear.
Two years later Holden received the Medal of Honor from him but not George Horn, something Edgerly always believed was an inexplicable injustice.
George Horn left the 7th Cavalry at Fort Rice at the end of his five years of service, but in February 1877, back in New York, he enlisted in the 3rd Artillery Regiment, stationed in neighboring Westchester. Finally, at the beginning of 1882 and being in the barracks in St. Augustine, Florida, George Horn was definitively discharging from the army "as a soldier - as his file reads - of an austere character, very firm and of absolute confidence".
He is buried in the Danville Military Cemetery. There is a grave with a headstone and a stark inscription: “George Horn - Cavalry - August 16th, 1917.
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Post by herosrest on Apr 8, 2021 19:11:36 GMT -5
Busca y encontrarás más para encontrar...........
After his testimony before the Court of Inquiry, John Martin rejoined the Seventh Regiment at Fort Lincoln for a few months and was honourably discharged on May 31, 1879, after completing his five year enlistment. Three weeks later, Martin re-enlisted for another five years as a trumpeter with the Third Artillery Regiment, Battery G, stationed at Fort Schulyer in the Bronx, one of the five boroughs of New York City. He never explained his decision not to reenlist with the Seventh. Perhaps, memories of the Little Bighorn weighed on him; or, he may have tired of the hard life of a cavalry trooper.
While serving at Fort Schuyler, John met Julia Margaret Higgins a 19-year-old Irish girl from Oswego, New York. Following a short engagement, John and Julia were married at St. Raymond’s Catholic Church in Westchester County (New York) on October 7. In 1880, while stationed on coastal defense duty in St. Augustine, Florida, the Martins welcomed their first child, Julia. SourceIt's just the normal noises in here. I believe that Friends of LBH = marked the grave.
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Post by herosrest on Apr 8, 2021 19:22:49 GMT -5
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Post by noggy on Apr 9, 2021 10:21:14 GMT -5
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Post by herosrest on Apr 10, 2021 10:14:38 GMT -5
I'm not saying that. I think that if Don had known then it would be a matter that had been aired. That research though, might prove fruitful. Stranger things have happened such as Horn and Martini in 3rd Artillery. Horn may have attended the wedding.... what do you think?
Two veterans of LBH. One a prospective MoH holder, the other carried the last message and spent the rest of the battle two yards from Reno or Benteen, as ordely trumpeter. I wonder how many more of the 7th from NY ended up with 3rd Arty....
If I remember well, then, Watson of Peter Thompson fame had a New York connection. Wow..... Holy wowser.........
I hope you are well.
Did the Norwegian Airforce fly Stukas?
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Post by noggy on Apr 10, 2021 14:17:29 GMT -5
I'm not saying that. I think that if Don had known then it would be a matter that had been aired. That research though, might prove fruitful. Stranger things have happened such as Horn and Martini in 3rd Artillery. Horn may have attended the wedding.... what do you think? I hope you are well. Did the Norwegian Airforce fly Stukas? I would assume so too. Horn isn't as exotic or uncommon/easy to pick out as say Windolph or ... Bull. Well if they knew of each other from the 7th (and didn't hate each other as so many did), I'd say odds are he might have been, and that's a nice thought. All well here, still more concerned for you Brits, but understand the vaccinations are getting up to speed now, which is good. As I consider myself a friend of BG in general, it has been sad to see the loss of life this last year. also, my condolences on the passing of the Duke (not sure if you are a monarchist). No Stukas in Norwegian service, even if we did shoot down one or two and you guys helped destroy a couple on the ground. Our tiny "air fleet" consisted of oboslete garbage from several European countries, the British Gloster Gladiator being our main fighter. They were actually able to shoot down some of the much more modern German planes, for some reason. As a side note, my favorite of all "our" planes must be the Italian Caproni Ca.310. The Italians gave them to us as a part of the payment in a major purchase of clipfish in 1938. I wonder how much fish we'd have to pay nowadays to get some decent bombers. All the best, Noggy |
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Post by herosrest on Apr 11, 2021 8:20:11 GMT -5
A couple of Norwhales should do it, for a squadron of SU-37's but that might upset Sam. And a few others. There's always the Grippen - beautiful bit of kit. 1940 was tough times and in the strategic it was a pity we could not bomb hell out of Luftflotte 5 on your airfields. I wasn't familiar with the CA-310 which seems to be on par with Lockheed's Hudson. Yes, I am happy for a monarchy and PP was exceptional alongside Mountbatten. The Prince is dead. Long Live the Prince. Alas, it will be Lizzy, soon. Our Covid Conunderum has been exactly that and many paid the ultimate price. It isn't commonly acknowledged how cynical medicine actually is but most survive and those who must make decisions are able to and generally without rioting and violent opposition. UK is a huge melting pot of races and their tensions but you know what - the kids in schools know nothing about it and get along terrifically. True equality. Gladiator on ME-109 is similar to the Spitfire and Hurricane problems with Mitsubishi Zero's. The Gladiator was far more manouverable and if the opposition dropped speed to dogfight - they were toast. Stay fast and the biplane just turns inside to escape. The Zero was that manouverable but as fast as top end opposition. My Fave piston engined single seater. |
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