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Post by stewillard on Oct 29, 2020 21:18:06 GMT -6
Are original Springfield carbines with serial numbers in the “Custer range” still demanding a relatively good price?
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Post by noggy on Nov 1, 2020 10:36:00 GMT -6
Are original Springfield carbines with serial numbers in the “Custer range” still demanding a relatively good price? Probably very much, although condition plays in, and you have documentation. Personally I`d donate the, to a museum or to the collection at the battlefield. Noggy |
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Post by gaylah on May 24, 2021 21:30:11 GMT -6
I have one that is confirmed serial number range from the battle. Will be at auction within the next year.
Plus three spurs, story is... the spur maker in or near Monroe MI made them for Custer. There were three sets and two or three relatives. They couldn't decide who to give each set to, so they put one spur from each set on a display board. I have one of the displays with letter about it.
Lobby also signed a book, though she wasn't the author, that is in the collection. A painting of the Crows Next by a Mr. Smythe (I think correct spelling).
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Post by Diane Merkel on Sept 17, 2021 10:10:46 GMT -6
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Post by noggy on Sept 18, 2021 2:18:06 GMT -6
The first article is pretty bad. Major-General Custer? 460 killed? But I guess it's the rifle which is the main point, not battle specifics. Noggy |
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Post by herosrest on Sept 18, 2021 9:45:55 GMT -6
Hmmmm...... John M. Carroll sold the gun in1980.
That's a huge red flag.
Swanson and Dyck were both heavily involved with artifacts and the history and would have snapped up the gun and paid a worthwhile price.
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Post by herosrest on Sept 18, 2021 10:23:11 GMT -6
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Post by herosrest on Sept 18, 2021 10:25:18 GMT -6
WorldCat John Melvin Carroll. Open LibraryBiblioCosmo John M. Carroll died in the summer of 1990 and left behind a vast body of work that added greatly to the scholarly study of Custer, ... which is why the John M. Carroll award is given and decorates numerous gallant and proudly defiant bookshelves. OoRah! Winner of the 2014 John Carroll Award.
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Post by Diane Merkel on Sept 18, 2021 12:15:08 GMT -6
herosrest,
Thanks for the info about when Carroll sold his. That negates his executor being the source of the gun.
I'm a bit suspicious of the story also. Why wouldn't the owner take it to a larger firm or at least one that specialized in the Indian War period?
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Post by herosrest on Sept 19, 2021 18:24:33 GMT -6
There's jist a large don't know and never will with the story as given and it is notably wide of the mark with very basic detail related to the battle and Custers. The item will stand or fall on the record of documents in provenience. It is what it is.
In terms of Carroll, he simply would understand both the value and importance of such an item and if he were going to realise the value in casj then he knew that value. His work with Custer and aspects of the battle was almost ferret like and yet published to llmited edition copy. The gun sale would have allowed him the luxury of a decently published book or two.
I would have loved to meet this unusual and remarkable gent.
Regards.
In terms of the weapon, it would have been a Sioux or more likely Cheyenne trophy which would need investigation to establish the chain of possessions. AZRanger is learning quite a bit from Cheyenne and Araphoe descendents at the moment and has quite the expert weapons knowledge to boot.
As I understand things, there is a weapon inherited from the Weiberts which will auction at some point.
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Post by jhster on Jan 28, 2023 16:23:58 GMT -6
Hello!
Can anyone here give me an estimated value for my Custer 7th Cavalry Springfield Carbine please?
It is documented in the National Archives under Record Group 156, Entry 21 as having been issued to someone in C Troop and returned to the armory as "unserviceable" along with many other weapons recovered from the Little Big Horn battlefield.
Thanks in advance!
John.
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Post by noggy on Jan 29, 2023 4:35:10 GMT -6
Hello! Can anyone here give me an estimated value for my Custer 7th Cavalry Springfield Carbine please? It is documented in the National Archives under Record Group 156, Entry 21 as having been issued to someone in C Troop and returned to the armory as "unserviceable" along with many other weapons recovered from the Little Big Horn battlefield. Thanks in advance! John. Hello! This is probably hard for anyone here to answer. It is obviously not in good shape, and many gun collectors are picky when it comes to condition. But people who are more general collectors of historical items are not necessarily in search of a functioning or even good-looking weapon so may still be interested. If it can't be linked to the Battle or at least the Summer Expedition of 1876, I guess the value won't be too high; the 7th as all regiments probably plowed through thousands upon thousands of weapons. But the paperwork will help. Does it say who the rifle had belonged to, and/or when it was? Your two best bets are to 1. Check with auction houses what similar artifacts have gone for and 2. Check what similar objects have been sold for online, between collectors. Stuff like this is never easy to put a price tag on, since personal interest plays such a huge part in what someone could be willing to pay. There may be 500 people who'd give you $20 since it is "just an old rifle", but then there is that one guy who'd give just about everything because it is "THAT rifle"  Good luck! |
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