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Post by coloneldedman on Mar 29, 2019 12:20:48 GMT -6
I am new to the website.
I have been away from Custer research for sometime.
I was wondering what new books you might each recommend for the latest battle theories?
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Post by herosrest on Mar 29, 2019 12:51:33 GMT -6
I'm sure there will be several worthwhile recommendations. I found the information HERE to be fascinating. A.B. Welch's collection. Actually, Technical Report 124 is useful when waiting for paint to dry.[/a] Hola. |
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Post by Colt45 on Mar 29, 2019 15:16:45 GMT -6
"Strategy of Defeat" by Fred Wagner is a must-read. Also, Donahue's book, "When the Rivers ran Red" is good for the battles prior to LBH. You have to take Donahue with a grain of salt, as he has a bias against Benteen that colors his view of the LBH battle.
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Post by noggy on Mar 30, 2019 5:13:47 GMT -6
"Strategy of Defeat" by Fred Wagner is a must-read. Also, Donahue's book, "When the Rivers ran Red" is good for the battles prior to LBH. You have to take Donahue with a grain of salt, as he has a bias against Benteen that colors his view of the LBH battle. I have not read his latest book, does he not also come with some pretty speculative stuff about Keogh and Ford B, or something? All the best, Noggy |
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Post by fred on Mar 31, 2019 3:58:09 GMT -6
I have not read his latest book, does he not also come with some pretty speculative stuff about Keogh and Ford B, or something? While I have not read Mike's book, I have also heard that as well. The problem I have is I cannot be objective with Mike Donahue's work. He is a good friend of mine and has heaped nothing but praise on my time-motion studies; it would not be fair to criticize him whether I have read his book or not. Plus, I cannot comment on the book as I have not read it yet... I just moved and unpacked my books, setting up bookshelves over the last three days. In addition, I am working on three new books and collecting data for a possible 3rd edition of the Participants book, so my time is severely limited. I have heard that about the Keogh business, however, and I have heard it from several sources so I suspect there is some truth to it. Remember... Mike Donahue may be the pre-eminent expert on the LBH. That does not make him right in his theories, no more than my work makes me correct. In either case, you must always assess what is the most logical, most reasonable, most empirically sound, and what uses the most reliable evidence available before making any decisions or reaching any conclusions. Remember as well, the Little Big Horn was a military operation and therefore unfolded as such. It was a dangerous, fast, sharp, mobile event that flowed quickly and without sideshows or diversions. Nobody was fooling around that day... there was no time for explorations or walks through the "park." The "fog of war," i.e., dust, smoke, and panic, obscured everything... even good writing and bad theory. Best wishes, Fred. |
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Post by herosrest on Mar 31, 2019 6:14:59 GMT -6
"Strategy of Defeat" by Fred Wagner is a must-read. Also, Donahue's book, "When the Rivers ran Red" is good for the battles prior to LBH. You have to take Donahue with a grain of salt, as he has a bias against Benteen that colors his view of the LBH battle. I must chip in on the Donahue 'Whoa boy! Steady there.' He is actually seriously down on Custer with theory that he descended on Little Bighorn to fight the women and children. That is the thrust of his conclusions and theory. Of course, Cheyenne tradition is that a woman killed him. Buffalo Calf Road Woman: The Story of a Warrior of the Little Bighorn |
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Post by noggy on Apr 1, 2019 3:09:02 GMT -6
Agreed. Personally I`m open minded to a rather large degree when it comes to the big picture, as in general movements, flow of battle etc. The skeptic in me, however, really wakes up when people start presenting claims about details like where exactly a certain individual was shot/killed as facts. One can make guesses with smaller or higher degrees of probability, but that`s not the same. But by all means, Donahue is highly respected and the new book will be added to the 300 books long shortlist I have... All the best, Geir |
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Post by herosrest on Apr 1, 2019 7:40:42 GMT -6
NEXT GATHERING The next Gathering of the English Westerners' Society takes place on Saturday, 18th May 2019 in London, where the guest speaker will be Michael Donahue who is not only an accomplished artist but for two decades was a seasonal National Park Ranger at the Little Bighorn Battlefield National Monument. His first book Drawing Battle Lines-The Map Testimony of Custer's Last Fight was published in 2008 and his latest book 'Where the Rivers Ran Red: The Indian Fights of George Armstrong Custer', in 2018. Members of the CAGB who wish to obtain a copy of the latest book can place an order with the Secretary of the CAGB, Kevin Galvin. This will be the paperback version and priced at $36.95 (approximately £29 but subject to currency fluctuations, postage and packing will be confirmed once new UK postal rates are published). Please note Mike will only be able to bring a small number of books with him so members need to order their copy early and orders will be based on the first come, first served principle. link Doggett's Coat & Badge is situated on the south bank of the Thames. This popular riverside pub, with a private meeting room and panoramic views of St. Paul’s Cathedral and the City from its exclusive terrace bar, is only a ten minute walk from either Waterloo Mainline Railway or Waterloo Underground Stations. Other Underground stations close by include Temple and Blackfriars. Bus routes 45, 63 and 100 pass the door. On road parking is very restricted and therefore travel by public transport is highly recommended. Doggett's Coat & Badge gets its name from the famous London rowing race of the same name. It is one of the world's oldest rowing races, held annually in England along the River Thames from London Bridge to Chelsea. Michael Donahue - Texas Temple |
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