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Post by fred on Mar 24, 2019 5:24:14 GMT -6
For those of you who may be interested in a new movie being made about the Little Big Horn battle, this one may be the most accurate ever made.
I am modestly involved, but I know those making it and the accuracy of both those portraying the whites and reds is stunning. Most of the re-enactors are from Keith Herrin's U. S. Cavalry School and one of the lead warriors is Michael Badhand, the most dedicated living portrayer of Indian life on the plains today. It effort promises to be the best ever done about the Little Big Horn.
Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by noggy on Mar 25, 2019 2:02:24 GMT -6
After watching the trailer and reading on the movie`s homepage, this seems a bit modest, Fred... Congratulations. This is something I`ll keep my eyes on. A good documentary/historically accurate movie about the battle is more than welcome. All the best, Geir
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Post by crzhrs on Mar 26, 2019 11:49:40 GMT -6
Looks interesting and the drones give a whole different perspective of the terrain and battle.
However, I didn't know Benteen wore glasses.
Fred . . . you Old Dog . . . when was the photo taken? . . . you look especially suave!
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Post by chrishoffert on Mar 26, 2019 11:53:47 GMT -6
Fred is correct, he is too modest. I had to twist his arm to talk up his bio lol. I'm the writer and director and I'm also doing some of the producing.
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Post by chrishoffert on Mar 26, 2019 11:59:39 GMT -6
Looks interesting and the drones give a whole different perspective of the terrain and battle. However, I didn't know Benteen wore glasses. Fred . . . you Old Dog . . . when was the photo taken? . . . you look especially suave! He didn't--that in aware of. The skits we were able to film were from last year's Cavalry School and this is the footage we used to do the preliminary marketing. We didn't have much control over casting and costuming. Everything we shoot this June will be from a script and such infractions of costuming errors will be controlled by the technical experts we have. Having a dedicated drone and operator will be instrumental in opening up how much terrain factors into the story, and no one has done that extensively in a production yet so we'll be the first to really use it.
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Post by crzhrs on Mar 26, 2019 12:46:20 GMT -6
Just curious . . . did you use accounts from participants, not just soldiers but Indians? I think the most accurate information would come from the Reno Court of Inquiry (RCOI) where witnesses (first hand) gave testimony under oath. Even using the RCOI you'll find discrepancies and contradictions from participants. Years later "witnesses" gave different accounts, i.e. Giovanni Martini aka John Martin where at the RCOI stated he saw Cooke/Custer talking and was given a note by Cooke (didn't know what it said) and to go to Benteen. Years later Martini stated he was given instructions personally from Custer.
Using Indian accounts can be "iffy". Many Indians once on reservations felt it was best to tell the White Man what he wanted to hear rather than the truth. Still there were a number of individuals who told it like it was.
The most accurate filming I feel was Son of the Morning Star and even that had holes in it.
After 143 years we still don't know exactly what happened . . . and probably won't other than the Indians won and the Soldiers lost.
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Post by noggy on Mar 26, 2019 13:42:05 GMT -6
Fred . . . you Old Dog . . . when was the photo taken? . . . you look especially suave! Is it not from his (one of) book(s)? And I too hope there is a NA view here. As an outsider, yet understanding of how a nation can not have warlike tribes roaming around, I have never felt that the biggest tragedy concerning LBH were the US military losses. All the best, Geir
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Post by crzhrs on Mar 26, 2019 14:44:59 GMT -6
Noggy: "warlike tribes roaming around" were on the land that was ceded to them by the Treaty of 1868 and which the US Government and US military failed to uphold and keep Whites out of their territory.
It was the US Government that conspired to start a war against the Free-Roaming Indians by false claims of whites being killed and other false accusations. You can read the "facts" according to John Gray's Centennial Campaign and Custer's Last Campaign among other books.
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Post by noggy on Mar 26, 2019 15:04:30 GMT -6
Noggy: "warlike tribes roaming around" were on the land that was ceded to them by the Treaty of 1868 and which the US Government and US military failed to uphold and keep Whites out of their territory. It was the US Government that conspired to start a war against the Free-Roaming Indians by false claims of whites being killed and other false accusations. You can read the "facts" according to John Gray's Centennial Campaign and Custer's Last Campaign among other books. Crzhrs: Did not the Sioux and Cheyenne venture outside the Indian Territory, attacking other tribes? Did they not attack tribes like the Crows on their reservations before and after 1876? LBH was, I believe even then,on Crow the Reservation? These tribes were allied to the US and in a sense their ... allies? The premise for the 76 war was lies, BS and greed. The US has in my opinion many faults regarding it`s policy towards it`s natives. Yet, it is not black and white. All the best, Noggy
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Post by fred on Mar 26, 2019 17:33:41 GMT -6
Looks interesting and the drones give a whole different perspective of the terrain and battle. However, I didn't know Benteen wore glasses. Fred . . . you Old Dog . . . when was the photo taken? . . . you look especially suave! Horse, Thank you!! That photo is about 10-12 years old, but I have changed very little... at least according to my wife. Chris has done an absolutely marvelous job with this thing; I just hope he makes his goal. Thanks, as always, for your kind words and I hope you are doing well. Very best wishes, Fred.
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Post by herosrest on Mar 27, 2019 7:47:42 GMT -6
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Post by crzhrs on Mar 27, 2019 14:39:30 GMT -6
I think we are veering off-topic so will try to get back to the main thrust of the topic.
I hope the documentary will provide a new perspective on what happened especially with the use of drones which may help us understand the flow of the battle, the type of terrain both sides were dealing with and the distance between Benteen, Reno & Custer to understand why some of the decisions were made.
If Fred is involved then it must be more factual than some of the attempts at trying to figure out what happened.
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Post by herosrest on Mar 27, 2019 18:40:00 GMT -6
Drones offer a new dimension and there is a degree of novelty. The link link shows some interesting techniques and particularly the jerking lateral rotations which add surprise and urgency. What they cannot do is this interesting documentary style. Or this.
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Post by herosrest on Mar 28, 2019 12:44:54 GMT -6
Feeling constantly to the left, I am sure my point is somewhat lost so........ contemplate the film techniques employed by 'presentation' (production) of the mission and overview - HERE .
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Post by tubman13 on Apr 9, 2019 5:35:25 GMT -6
Fred,
Consider me a "fan boy', I look forward to seeing the completed project. best wishes to all involved.
CRZHRS, he has not changed, saw him at Gettysburg in August.
Regards, Tom
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