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Post by tubman13 on Feb 17, 2018 7:24:42 GMT -6
True confession, "They Died With Their Boots On" was my first intro to GAC. I may have outgrown the fantasy, but not the interest or study. With regard to Joshua's work, I read what was available on Amazon and think it would be a good Summer Beach read. I hope that does not offend him. Oh, I still enjoy Stephen King.
Regards, Tom
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Post by AZ Ranger on Feb 17, 2018 9:12:54 GMT -6
AZ, Don't wish to disappoint you, AZ, but, 700 books trumps any re-enactor you may present as "history" to the credulous and entertainment starved mob. But, if it floats your boat , by all means, have a pleasant voyage. Cheers, Robb You always disappoint me Robb. You share nothing out of you 700 books. I think we all know a reenactor that plays Keogh and would he agree with you? Or how about Steve Alexander? He lives in a Custer house and I doubt you have any idea of how many books these reenactors own. Regards Steve
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Post by pequod on Feb 17, 2018 9:44:21 GMT -6
AZ,
It doesn't matter one whit how many books I have or someone else has; what matters is re-enactors pretending to understand history by dressing up in clown outfits and showing off their egos....
Robb
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Post by joshua on Feb 18, 2018 6:51:58 GMT -6
tubman13 Avatar Posts: 2,389Male All Heroes Fall 23 hours ago Quote like Post Options . Post by tubman13 on 23 hours ago True confession, "They Died With Their Boots On" was my first intro to GAC. I may have outgrown the fantasy, but not the interest or study. With regard to Joshua's work, I read what was available on Amazon and think it would be a good Summer Beach read. I hope that does not offend him. Oh, I still enjoy Stephen King. Regards, Tom Read more: lbha.proboards.com/thread/5348/all-heroes-fall#ixzz57Si18ZxgNo, it doesn't offend me at all, Tom This isn't a "history book" and nor did I intend it to be. But I have always been fascinated by this particular battle and have read much about it over the years. My knowledge of it is probably not a mile short of those who claim to be "experts" on the subject, so the book does follow events "fairly" accurately. Personally, I have always enjoyed reading historical fiction, but I have also read a ton of factual history books. I don't really see why you can't enjoy both. One other thought; I think its fair to say that its hard to determine the events of the last stand itself with 100% accuracy, so any version of it will be open to question. But then, that only adds to the fascination of this particular subject...
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Post by joshua on Feb 18, 2018 12:35:05 GMT -6
Speaking of historical ficton (or whatever we should call it), did anyone here read Sven Hazel/Sven Hassel? At least in Europe I`m sure those books helped increase the ever-growing interest of German WW2 history. I remember "wheels of terror" and "Legion of the damned".... If I got the titles right....? I am from England and we grew up on this stuff...... As well as loads of westerns like Edge and Steel...And Jubal cade, Crow and Body.. Anyone ever read any of them...?
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Post by crzhrs on Feb 18, 2018 13:25:58 GMT -6
Hey folks . . . I was just giving my opinion. If you like fiction that's great. But when it comes to a hotly debated and still a mystery about what happened at the LBH we don't need a made up story. We have enough of that from many of the participants to digest!
Looks at the hundreds (thousands?) of non-fiction books about the LBH . . . do we need a fictionalized one to add to the confusion?
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Post by noggy on Feb 19, 2018 7:41:09 GMT -6
Speaking of historical ficton (or whatever we should call it), did anyone here read Sven Hazel/Sven Hassel? At least in Europe I`m sure those books helped increase the ever-growing interest of German WW2 history. I remember "wheels of terror" and "Legion of the damned".... If I got the titles right....?
Well I read them in Norwegin but yes, you did. Wheels of Terror was adapted into a movie. Terrible stuff. A shame since there should be a way to make a pretty entertaining movie out of all that madness.
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Post by dave on Feb 19, 2018 9:49:34 GMT -6
Noggy The folks from Norge seem to be beating everyone up in with 28 medals so far. Congratulations as I know all the Norwegians must be celebrating their team's great efforts. Regards Dave
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Post by AZ Ranger on Feb 19, 2018 10:11:43 GMT -6
Hey folks . . . I was just giving my opinion. If you like fiction that's great. But when it comes to a hotly debated and still a mystery about what happened at the LBH we don't need a made up story. We have enough of that from many of the participants to digest! Looks at the hundreds (thousands?) of non-fiction books about the LBH . . . do we need a fictionalized one to add to the confusion? I think there is more truth in something labeled historical fiction than the opinions held by some. How would you know what part is made up in something labeled fiction if you have never read it? Robb here as pequod made lots of comments about Fred's book Strategy of Defeat without ever reading it. His comments about reenactors shows where he is coming from when he comments. I consider Steve Alexander a friend and look forward to talking with him. I think some of the beliefs about Benteen are no different than fiction so I am not sure of the point. Regards Steve
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Post by noggy on Feb 19, 2018 11:00:57 GMT -6
Noggy The folks from Norge seem to be beating everyone up in with 28 medals so far. Congratulations as I know all the Norwegians must be celebrating their team's great efforts. Regards Dave Thank you, Dave. We claim to be born with skis on our feet, so we have an unfair advantage. But yes, as always we get full of ourselves when we do well That being said, I`d swap away most of those medals to get a decent national team in football (soccer).... I fear that will never happen again. Cheers
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Post by pequod on Feb 19, 2018 11:53:07 GMT -6
Noggy,
Norway deserves all the medals it wins, and if that makes the Americans look bad, so be it.
Go Norway...!
Robb
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Post by pequod on Feb 19, 2018 11:56:39 GMT -6
AZ,
Since we have you to point out the difference between history and fiction, the truth of your utterances will never be questioned by anyone here with any sense of decency.
Robb
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Post by AZ Ranger on Feb 20, 2018 18:19:43 GMT -6
AZ, Since we have you to point out the difference between history and fiction, the truth of your utterances will never be questioned by anyone here with any sense of decency. Robb TR You are losing it I fear. No one is pointing out the difference between history and fiction. We were addressing historical fiction. Regards Steve
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Post by pequod on Feb 20, 2018 18:52:24 GMT -6
Steve,
Yes, Steve, we are addressing historical fiction, that's why we read you...!
Robb
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Post by AZ Ranger on Feb 21, 2018 7:09:02 GMT -6
Robb The great academic credentials that you allege you have are becoming tarnished. Apparently you can not distinguish between opinions and facts. Nor can you distinguish between fiction and a lie. Stick to telling us not to end a sentence with a preposition and at least you would be historically correct. The OED website shines some light on modern English usages. en.oxforddictionaries.com/grammar/ending-sentences-with-prepositionsI think you have told me that you are not keeping up with the current literature regarding the battle and that is something we can both agree "on". Regards Steve
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