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Post by joshua on Feb 13, 2018 4:11:16 GMT -6
All Heroes Fall is a new book that is now out. You can find it on Amazon or order it from Waterstones. It is about the build up to and the battle of the Little Bighorn. If you like this subject you may be interested in reading it....
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Post by noggy on Feb 13, 2018 6:20:25 GMT -6
Hello Mr. Wells. Maybe you could write a little about what your take on the LBH is, as in how it differs from other books on the subject?
Cheers
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Post by joshua on Feb 14, 2018 1:47:01 GMT -6
Hi noggy, The book is historical "fiction" but most of what happens is obviously factual, being based on true events. There is a kind of "supernatural" theme that runs through it which makes it kind of different I guess. Also it contains a portrayal of the last stand itself, which few other similar books do. By the way, thanks for looking it up, noggy....
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Post by tubman13 on Feb 15, 2018 8:52:10 GMT -6
Very reasonable on Kindle, what little I read seems to flow nicely.
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Post by crzhrs on Feb 15, 2018 15:33:14 GMT -6
I am not a fan of "historical fiction" . . . I want facts, truth, and figures, not someone's made-up story of the LBH!
Actually I'm not a reader of fiction of any kind.
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Post by pequod on Feb 15, 2018 17:34:18 GMT -6
crzhrs,
"Historical fiction" is an oxymoron and has no place in the LBH narrative, unless you want your history in fictional fits and starts. Actually, some members here like fiction, and they will remain..nameless.
Regards,
Robb
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Post by noggy on Feb 16, 2018 3:02:28 GMT -6
Well, I for one quite like novels which have a historical setting, as long as they aren`t full of errors. If they are, they go in the bin.
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Post by AZ Ranger on Feb 16, 2018 6:24:23 GMT -6
I guess we need to get rid of Son of the Morning Star. As usual Robb makes a comment without full disclosure of the varied definitions of words. If he were to look up the definition of historical fiction he would find many different definitions. One simple states it is any fiction over 50 years old. Another is that the fiction is set in a period correct environment. Robb alleges historical fiction is an oxymoron. I think "Robb's common sense" is an oxymoron.
Definitions
Definitions differ as to what constitutes a historical novel. On the one hand The Historical Novel Society defines the genre as works "written at least fifty years after the events described",[2] whilst on the other hand critic Sarah Johnson delineates such novels as "set before the middle of the last [20th] century […] in which the author is writing from research rather than personal experience."[3] Then again Lynda Adamson, in her preface to the bibliographic reference work World Historical Fiction, states that while a "generally accepted definition" for the historical novel is a novel "about a time period at least 25 years before it was written", she also suggests that some people read novels written in the past, like those of Jane Austen (1775–1817), as if they were historical novels.[4]
Historical reenactment is an educational or entertainment activity in which people follow a plan to recreate aspects of a historical event or period. This may be as narrow as a specific moment from a battle, such as the reenactment of Pickett's Charge presented during the Great Reunion of 1913, or as broad as an entire period, such as Regency reenactment or The 1920s Berlin Project.
Historical fiction - An essential element of historical fiction is that it is set in the past and pays attention to the manners, social conditions and other details of the period depicted. Authors also frequently choose to explore notable historical figures in these settings, allowing readers to better understand how these individuals might have responded to their environments.
ADJECTIVE .of or concerning history; concerning past events:
"the historical background to such studies"
•belonging to the past, not the present:
"famous historical figures"
synonyms: past · bygone · ancient · old · former · of yore
•(especially of a novel or movie) set in the past.
•(of the study of a subject) based on an analysis of its development over a period:
Regards
AZ Ranger
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Post by dave on Feb 16, 2018 12:06:07 GMT -6
pequod and crzhrs Historical fiction has provided insight into many activities that would have been ignored otherwise. C. S. Forester created the Hornblower character for the series of novels about the Royal Navy as did Alexander Kent with his Richard Bolitho Royal Navy historical series that many first read as kids but still reread as adults.
Look at what Michael and Jeff Shaara have achieved with their series of Civil War novels, the movie Gettysburg was based on his work and it was very popular. These men have brought many more people to the ACW than the old days of reading dry historical documents.
As long as one realize's they are reading fiction then there is no harm anymore than listening to tall tales from veterans or grandfathers. Movies often perform the same task by introducing one to a story or event creating interest for further study based on historical facts and documents.
pequod ya' gotta get off that mountain overlooking Whovile and let your dog Max lead as he knows the way. Come join the living!! Regards Dave
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Post by pequod on Feb 16, 2018 13:10:30 GMT -6
Dave and AZ,
Since you like to read works of fiction, it's no wonder you frequent this web-site on a regular basis. Fiction is for entertainment, and if you wish to only be entertained and not informed, please continue your reading habits and be blissfully happy. Read on...!
Cheers,
Robb (Pequod)
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Post by AZ Ranger on Feb 16, 2018 17:18:40 GMT -6
Dave and AZ, Since you like to read works of fiction, it's no wonder you frequent this web-site on a regular basis. Fiction is for entertainment, and if you wish to only be entertained and not informed, please continue your reading habits and be blissfully happy. Read on...! Cheers, Robb (Pequod) Everything you post has no factual value even if it is not fiction. I think a reenactor or a period correct dressed historian goes beyond fiction and adds an understanding of the historic time period. When firing a carbine with a black powder cartridge you can imagine what it was like both in recoil and smoke produced. Gerry portrays Private Peter Thompson and lots persons visiting his site at the Real Bird event get to see his tent, equipment, saddle, uniform, and firearms. It may be fiction in that he is not really Peter Thompson but it is a helluva lot more beneficial to the public than anything you have shared here. I keep waiting for some expertise to show up from the 700 books that you have. Regards Steve
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Post by pequod on Feb 16, 2018 17:51:45 GMT -6
AZ,
Don't wish to disappoint you, AZ, but, 700 books trumps any re-enactor you may present as "history" to the credulous and entertainment starved mob. But, if it floats your boat , by all means, have a pleasant voyage.
Cheers,
Robb
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Post by dave on Feb 16, 2018 22:20:31 GMT -6
Ah but pequod fiction is a beginning point for many scholars who are first introduced to actual events through historical novels. Look at what WEB Griffin has accomplished by writing historical fiction stories that intrigued young readers. These youngsters have gone on to serve in the armed forces and or college to secure degrees so fiction did not ruin them.
Accusing me of frequenting this site for the fiction is rather humorous as you too are a regular continue to read the same works of fiction so you must be Blissfully Happy too!! Regads Dave
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Post by pequod on Feb 16, 2018 23:10:11 GMT -6
Dave,
If historical fiction is what you prefer, then it's not for me to say whether you are not qualified to read and appreciate a work of rigorous history, be it the LBH or 19th century German philosophy as presented by Hegel.
I prefer more rigor in reading, whether, history or philosophy or literature. The only fiction I read on a regular basis, is the morning newspaper...!
Regards,
Robb
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Post by noggy on Feb 17, 2018 7:09:17 GMT -6
Speaking of historical ficton (or whatever we should call it), did anyone here read Sven Hazel/Sven Hassel? At least in Europe I`m sure those books helped increase the ever-growing interest of German WW2 history.
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