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Post by Jenny on May 15, 2023 8:53:19 GMT -6
FYI to anyone looking for a photo of this, there is one in Katherine Fougera's memoir, With Custer's Cavalry. The hardback edition I have shows it on page 276.
No answer from the battlefield yet. Not that I'm expecting one. <crickets>
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Post by Jenny on Jun 12, 2023 9:45:37 GMT -6
FYI, here's the photo. J Attachments:
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Post by noggy on Jun 13, 2023 2:34:07 GMT -6
Do we know anything about whether or not the content is available, or has anyone read anything from it?
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Post by Jenny on Jun 13, 2023 18:32:29 GMT -6
It will probably remain a mystery for all eternity, since it will taken answer from the battlefield staff in order to know the answer to your question. I'm going there in a week or so and will see if I can get some traction on this!
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Post by noggy on Jun 14, 2023 13:43:55 GMT -6
It will probably remain a mystery for all eternity, since it will taken answer from the battlefield staff in order to know the answer to your question. I'm going there in a week or so and will see if I can get some traction on this! J Great stuff, thanks! Noggy
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Post by herosrest on Jun 15, 2023 3:52:55 GMT -6
Dear Jenny, An adjunct to the M cIntosh diary matter. Missing.... without trace? Please bare with me as I prattle on, and on, and........ These items have value and particularly for collectors obsessed with the history and owning it as investment. There is a market and trade for such singular and unique items of historic worth. I don't think it to difficult to realise what happened to the diary, if not mis-located into Lincoln's assassination files or with Jefferson Davis famous speeches. I happen to have spotted other missing battle related items in collection inventories simply because from time to time I scan for battle related auction items. Unrelated to the diary, this morning ' Voila!, items collected from the Reno valley fight location by Tosh's family; and an item discovered on the land in 1995. It may interest you that The Elizabeth Custer Manuscript Archive with thousands of letters, notes, handwritten book galleys and drafts, memorabilia, and personal papers, is in trust at Garryowen and now owned (I assume) by the Crow Tribe which purchased the place a couple of years ago. Elizabeth Custer Library & Museum of Frontier Women of the West. In her will, Elizabeth Custer stated that she desired her personal property and anything that could be considered a souvenir belonging to her late husband, to be kept in a "Public Museum or Memorial, which may be erected on the battlefield of the Little Bighorn in Montana.” Some more recent history is HERE and the previous owners account - Arrow to the Heart is an interesting read. From what I can guage, a number of locals interested in battle artifacts simply didn't get along too well and were rattle snaking around. Little Big Horn by Bob Nightengale. Historic (Little Bighorn) artifacts are a minefield on site. I think Sitting Bull once said: 'Land mine!' - we know what Custer's casualty count was, after that. SwansonBenteenDyck who owned land adjacent the battlefield entrance and wanted his museum there. CBHMA who own land adjacent the battlefield entrance and wanted their museum there rather than on the I90 upriver of....... Garryowen. Step lightly. Having completely bored you (sorry0 here's 'Father Neptune' - linkNow, if you thought DD-257 is interesting, then check out HMS Churchill
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Post by Jenny on Jun 15, 2023 18:14:06 GMT -6
HR -- The FBI reported that the person who stole Tosh's diary, a notorious eco-terrorist with a rap sheet a mile long, destroyed it before it could be recovered. Yes, I can imagine it actually was auctioned to the highest bidder on the dark (or light) web.
Still, the battlefield personnel in charge of such things certainly had photos/transcriptions of the diary's interior before it was stolen. That's what I'm after.
Thanks for the info. There's no shortage of squabbling and drama related to this battle! Even from the reaches of the afterlife!
Jenny
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Post by herosrest on Jun 16, 2023 6:56:47 GMT -6
It's spooky out there............ Woooooo........
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Post by Jenny on Jun 30, 2023 11:22:57 GMT -6
Update: I visited the battlefield visitor's center o 6/25/23 and was informed that Sharon Small, the head of interpretation, "will get to" my request, but all artifacts are kept in Tucson here www.nps.gov/orgs/1260/index.htm So this is where I'm turning next. J
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Post by noggy on Jun 30, 2023 13:34:25 GMT -6
Update: I visited the battlefield visitor's center o 6/25/23 and was informed that Sharon Small, the head of interpretation, "will get to" my request, but all artifacts are kept in Tucson here www.nps.gov/orgs/1260/index.htm So this is where I'm turning next. J Great stuff, imo this is kind of a mystery. It is strange to me that such a piece of history was never documented/saved What a shame! As a historian, stuff like this makes me sad. When original pieces of history are lost, it is irreversible. We need to save all texts and documents. ALL of the, One day someone may need them...so write diaries too! (I don't but intersting people should) All the best, Noggy
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Post by Jenny on Jul 1, 2023 16:45:53 GMT -6
Ha, you must be interesting because you're on this board! I read a brief excerpt of Tosh's diary the other day regarding Autie Reed being absent from roll call one day so photos of the diary's contents exist somewhere.
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Post by herosrest on Sept 3, 2023 12:43:06 GMT -6
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Post by Jenny on Sept 5, 2023 19:45:08 GMT -6
I can only hope whoever bought his ring donated it to the battlefield. Probably not. J
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Post by Jenny on Sept 5, 2023 19:48:59 GMT -6
An update on the McIntosh diary:
Sharon Small, battlefield museum curator, says the contents may have been photographed but IF the photos exist they are on microfiche - and their machine is broken. SO...when it's fixed I may hear more. Former battlefield historian John Doerner apparently saw the contents once and said the diary contained mostly debt tallies and other numbers of little historic interest (rather than narratives.)
Stay tuned.
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Post by Jenny on Sept 14, 2023 9:32:42 GMT -6
Update! I received the contents of this diary, which really is more record-keeping for things bought and sold, finances of the company and, interestingly, notes about McIntosh's arrest of Benny Hodgson, including McIntosh's reason and Hodgson's protestation in the form of an official letter to HQ. I've uploaded it here as a pdf. Thanks to LBH curator Sharon Small and former battlefield historian John Doerner for this. Sharon said she discovered in this process that the battlefield had no copy of this in their records. Now they do. Jenny McIntosh_Diary_Transcription.pdf (449.49 KB)
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