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Post by Dark Cloud on Mar 1, 2014 19:19:54 GMT -6
Agree, and suspect Custer was processing the results to his career heading to Weir Pt. and concluding there was no option but to attack in full and soon. And so, down they rode with Custer near the lead, but it was too far, and would take too long, which would add to the frustration as it was realized. Momentum fueled by anxiety switching to alarm and then fear to LSH.
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Post by tubman13 on Mar 1, 2014 19:24:18 GMT -6
Tom: You are definitely off the invitation list for the Joan of Arc stake burning reenactment. So There. Oh, sphit, sorry, how can I make it up to you? Two nights at the Broadmoor, for you and MRS Chuck? The 3rd morning you and me go double or nothing for the bill, over a round of skeet?
Regards, Tom
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Post by fred on Mar 1, 2014 19:31:14 GMT -6
Hey guys... where is the "they wish they had said that" thread? I'll edit this post and move it there when I find it.
Go over to the other boards and check out the last couple of posts-- mine and "mackenzieraider's"-- on the "Why a written note" thread. If you do so, you will see what I mean about some of these clowns. This guy is beyond belief. I don't recall ever seeing such ignorance. My post is a fairly long one dealing with the Benteen time-line, divide separation to Reno Hill. It's his response that just boggles my ever-loving' mind.
Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by fred on Mar 1, 2014 19:35:12 GMT -6
... skat. Best wishes, Fred. Incoming!!
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Post by tubman13 on Mar 1, 2014 19:55:06 GMT -6
Hey guys... where is the "they wish they had said that" thread? I'll edit this post and move it there when I find it. Go over to the other boards and check out the last couple of posts-- mine and "mackenzieraider's"-- on the "Why a written note" thread. If you do so, you will see what I mean about some of these clowns. This guy is beyond belief. I don't recall ever seeing such ignorance. My post is a fairly long one dealing with the Benteen time-line, divide separation to Reno Hill. It's his response that just boggles my ever-loving' mind. Best wishes, Fred. Sorry, not familiar with other board, I will have to take your word. I must confess I have always had real respect for the real MacKenzie, Grant and I both!
Regards, Tom
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Post by quincannon on Mar 1, 2014 20:24:17 GMT -6
Considering I misspelled Polovisian, and damned near got kicked out of the Stranger in Paradise fan club, I am feeling contrite. Click on the top rightmost icon associated with the post you wish to delete, and you will find several options, one of which is delete.
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Post by fred on Mar 1, 2014 20:40:54 GMT -6
Click on the top rightmost icon associated with the post you wish to delete, and you will find several options, one of which is delete. Got it! Thanks. Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by fred on Mar 1, 2014 20:43:03 GMT -6
Sorry, not familiar with other board.... Don't bother, Tom. Don't waste your time; it's depressing to see how really dumb some people can be. Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by quincannon on Mar 1, 2014 20:51:21 GMT -6
Is not, Thou Shall not take Mackenzie's name in vain the First Commandment, followed by Keep Holy Mackenzie Day. The man should be left to wander the Llano Estacado for eternity, which is hotter than the other place.
Fred: If you listened to the Met Broadcast today, one of the people on the panel was George Preston who manages our public radio station KCME. He also does the narration on The Lyric Opera of Chicago which ends its season before the Met season starts.
Listening to Wagner is like a 24 hour long root canal. Listening to Russian opera is more like abdominal surgery. You are generally unconscious during the procedure, but it hurts afterwards. Borodin is the exception.
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Post by Yan Taylor on Mar 2, 2014 5:05:32 GMT -6
If you like beautiful music with a touch of the melancholy, listen to Prelude by Bach, that solo Cello will nail you. The first classical piece I ever got into was by Stravinsky’s “A Firebird Suite”.
And now Sue and I are going to wander through the Steppes of Central Asia.
Ian.
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Post by tubman13 on Mar 2, 2014 6:05:43 GMT -6
Boy, you guys are way to highfalutin, for me, 1st opera I attended was Rigoletto, by Verdi at LaScala(Italy) in 1966, the last was Tales of Hoffman, by Offenbach, Baltimore in 1973ish. Yes that was Offenbach, not awful Bach. Then you mention The Met, heck the last Met I listened to was Gil Hodges after they clipped the Orioles in the 1969 WS. Getting back to the LBH, an opera could be made of this, we have an easy 3 acts and the fat lady could sing while putting the awl in Custer's ear. You think we could sell it!
Regards, Tom
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Post by tubman13 on Mar 2, 2014 6:12:54 GMT -6
By the way, Robert Merrill and Goulet are both dead, my 1st and 2nd choices for Keogh.
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Post by montrose on Mar 2, 2014 6:32:35 GMT -6
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Post by AZ Ranger on Mar 2, 2014 8:17:34 GMT -6
Will
Does it change anything in regards of support if Reno is an advance attack force or vanguard as compared to calling it an advanced guard. I tend to believe that Custer did not establish an advance guard other than the scouts as he moved down Reno Creek and that he ordered Reno to an offensive attack. I still believe support is dependent upon the size of the force you are up against and the amount of time that you can reasonably hold out without being trapped in a last stand defense. I read Benteen as stating that in his testimony. You hold that position but would be killed in place. His time estimate may or not be relevant. The question I would have asked is what time would he have left to avoid being in a last stand situation.
I also think Reno's decision was to move out before being trapped in a last stand situation. I am not sure that there is any way to do it better after going into the timber. The horses on both sides could sense which role the were taking in my opinion. Reno's horse were in full out flight mode and harder to control because of it and the Indian's horse were in attack mode allowing to close in on the troopers while maintaining control.
That horses are a living prey species has to be factored into the capabilities of mounted fighters. When Reno's troopers turned them loose at full speed for that distance the horse was prey species and out of immediate control. The river crossing and climbing the bluffs slowed them.
Regards
Steve
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Post by tubman13 on Mar 2, 2014 9:09:35 GMT -6
Steve, as far as I can tell the only advance guard anywhere on 6/25/76 was that led by 2nd Lt Hare, during Reno's Valley fight. He advanced almost to Shoulder Blade Creek on his left before returning his men to their company, in the face of increasing numbers of NA's both on his front and to his left.
Question, is Minneconjou Ford, ford B? Thanks.
Regards, Tom
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