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Post by Mike Powell on Jan 6, 2014 15:30:04 GMT -6
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Post by quincannon on Jan 6, 2014 16:39:57 GMT -6
Mike: Those are outstanding pictures. Did you take them, and if so you must have frozen your butt off.
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Post by Mike Powell on Jan 6, 2014 17:18:49 GMT -6
I took them, it was cold. For all of three minutes I had some limited sense of what 1866 might have felt like, absent skillful people in great numbers intent on wiping me out. My first winter time in Wyoming and Montana since 1952. I recommend such a visit. The vistas are more appealing and far fewer people to put up with. North slope of the Beartooths  |
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Post by quincannon on Jan 6, 2014 18:17:11 GMT -6
In those first shots you can see the effect the high wind has on that landscape. It is bad enough here, but on that piece of ground when the wind is up to 40 or 50 it must be brutal. That is a great bit of photography. As far as being up there this time of year, you write me all about it and I will diligently read it with a cup oh hot chocolate in front of my fire.
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Post by scottbono on Jan 6, 2014 18:44:15 GMT -6
I took them, it was cold. For all of three minutes I had some limited sense of what 1866 might have felt like, absent skillful people in great numbers intent on wiping me out. My first winter time in Wyoming and Montana since 1952. I recommend such a visit. The vistas are more appealing and far fewer people to put up with. North slope of the Beartooths I came across Beartooth in the late 70's. Never again. Glad there's REAL pioneers in the world. Left to me, the country would still be a bunch of colonies on the east coast. Great photos...magnificent vistas. |
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Post by Mike Powell on Jan 6, 2014 21:23:02 GMT -6
An interesting thing about the Beartooth Highway, Red Lodge to Cooke City, is there used to be a ritual at the summit each spring on the day the road was opened. The Red Lodge business leaders would create a bar carved from the roadside ice and snow and serve travelers free drinks.
Another interesting thing is there have been only a handful of fatal driving accidents on the highway. In 2006 I drove across it with a windshield shattered by an owl collision. Fortunately my navigator was an experienced mountain driver, though blind in one eye.
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Post by scottbono on Jan 6, 2014 22:11:00 GMT -6
An interesting thing about the Beartooth Highway, Red Lodge to Cooke City, is there used to be a ritual at the summit each spring on the day the road was opened. The Red Lodge business leaders would create a bar carved from the roadside ice and snow and serve travelers free drinks. Another interesting thing is there have been only a handful of fatal driving accidents on the highway. In 2006 I drove across it with a windshield shattered by an owl collision. Fortunately my navigator was an experienced mountain driver, though blind in one eye. I will not be cajoled, coerced, tempted or bamboozled to drive that route again! I, sir, am a wuss!! |
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Post by tubman13 on Jan 22, 2014 14:54:35 GMT -6
An interesting thing about the Beartooth Highway, Red Lodge to Cooke City, is there used to be a ritual at the summit each spring on the day the road was opened. The Red Lodge business leaders would create a bar carved from the roadside ice and snow and serve travelers free drinks. Another interesting thing is there have been only a handful of fatal driving accidents on the highway. In 2006 I drove across it with a windshield shattered by an owl collision. Fortunately my navigator was an experienced mountain driver, though blind in one eye. I will not be cajoled, coerced, tempted or bamboozled to drive that route again! I, sir, am a wuss!! I am in VA with only 4" of snow and 22 degrees, last week 61 degrees. I will pay for my own brews & Scotch. I would love to visit in Summer, however.
Regards, Tom
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Post by alfakilo on Jan 31, 2014 9:00:29 GMT -6
Here's a similar view without the snow. Standing there, I wondered how the NAs could have hidden in those low areas without being seen by the soldiers walking along the trail. Attachments:
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Post by fred on Jan 31, 2014 9:29:37 GMT -6
Andy,
My friends and I go there every odd-numbered year; it has become ritual, along with the LBH. We go there in June, however, so we have not seen it with snow.
Supposedly, the foliage at the LBH is quite similar today to what it was like in 1876, but I do not know if that is the case at Fetterman. This past June, us six clowns took a tour with Doug Scott, one of the 1984-1985 archaeologists, and we went into Calhoun Coulee and Deep Ravine, as well as some areas along Greasy Grass Ridge. We were all stunned to see how different the coulee looked when one is in it. It was remarkable. While we also walked along the Fetterman ridge, we didn't really head down and wander through or into the small gulches and ravines. I wonder if it is similar to what we experienced at the LBH. Of course, the winter changes everything once again, so...
Best wishes,
Fred.
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Post by alfakilo on Jan 31, 2014 9:53:26 GMT -6
Hi Fred
Too many questions, too few answers. Both here at the Fetterman location and LBH, I had to keep reminding myself that this wasn't some rhetorical exercise. Putting questions aside, these things happened. Fetterman did go down that ridge line, the NAs were able to overwhelm his force. Same for LBH. Custer's men did end up where they were found. Why or how? I suppose that's why we are all drawn to these discussions.
I've stood at the MTC ford and looked up the ravine and wondered why whomever was in charge at that point would go north away from support. If an officer had been wounded/killed at the ford, even more reason to wonder why the move to Calhoun Hill and not back up MTC towards whatever help existed.
Very perplexing!
AK
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Post by AZ Ranger on Jan 31, 2014 10:18:05 GMT -6
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