Post by custermania on Aug 24, 2021 19:45:39 GMT -6
Not me Custer was at fault period but Benteen has to have some blame. NA Won because they ran to the gun fire and to help. The soliders lost because everyone was I and there is no I in team. Custer imo gets most of the fault but if Benteen didn’t hear gunfire and get the note I would agree with you. But I can’t see anyway to take it especially after not letting Weir go
Well argued,good points.
But first before putting together a riposte to do justice to your dispatches let me deal with a point our friend William made---
Notice Benteen consolidated the 7 companies in the rear,
This was after he had scattered them over 1.5 miles from Reno Hill to Weir Point more than twice the distance Custer scattered his command.
You guys are in agreement though coming at it from slightly different angles.If I can state it thus flexibility rather than rigid adherence to orders and the use of judgement calls.
Given those parameters it should be possible to frame Benteen not as a villian but as the hero.
Problem is Benteen does precious little to assist you guys in this endevour.
Let's see how flexibility works.Benteen is between a rock and a hard place in relation to the packs.How does he deal with this problem?He ignores the packs.They do not exist as far as he is concerned.On arrival at the Reno crash site one would imagine that the first thing he would do was to send a runner back to the packs to immediately inform the commander of the urgency of the situation and to bring forward the reserve ammo.This he does not do.
On arrival at Reno hill he make the judgement call which will make him the outstanding hero of the tragedy.He reports his command to Reno and relinquishes command of his battalion.
The judgement call is 180 degrees off his orders.You cannot say that he intended returning to his orders when the packs arrived.All further maneuvers at that point were up to Reno.
Further, the time spent with Reno was tactical time.What was it 45 minutes?That's critical time,win or lose time.You read of armies stealing a march,Benteen gave away a march.
Unlike judgement calls,following orders does not require justification.
Best Wishes
Fred,Colonel
Well argued,good points.
But first before putting together a riposte to do justice to your dispatches let me deal with a point our friend William made---
Notice Benteen consolidated the 7 companies in the rear,
This was after he had scattered them over 1.5 miles from Reno Hill to Weir Point more than twice the distance Custer scattered his command.
You guys are in agreement though coming at it from slightly different angles.If I can state it thus flexibility rather than rigid adherence to orders and the use of judgement calls.
Given those parameters it should be possible to frame Benteen not as a villian but as the hero.
Problem is Benteen does precious little to assist you guys in this endevour.
Let's see how flexibility works.Benteen is between a rock and a hard place in relation to the packs.How does he deal with this problem?He ignores the packs.They do not exist as far as he is concerned.On arrival at the Reno crash site one would imagine that the first thing he would do was to send a runner back to the packs to immediately inform the commander of the urgency of the situation and to bring forward the reserve ammo.This he does not do.
On arrival at Reno hill he make the judgement call which will make him the outstanding hero of the tragedy.He reports his command to Reno and relinquishes command of his battalion.
The judgement call is 180 degrees off his orders.You cannot say that he intended returning to his orders when the packs arrived.All further maneuvers at that point were up to Reno.
Further, the time spent with Reno was tactical time.What was it 45 minutes?That's critical time,win or lose time.You read of armies stealing a march,Benteen gave away a march.
Unlike judgement calls,following orders does not require justification.
Best Wishes