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Post by WY Man on Jan 17, 2011 15:47:07 GMT -6
I am currently researching Custer's 1869 expedition to the Cheyenne village on Sweetwater Creek in the Texas Panhandle. I would like to know, in what movies has the event of Custer smoking the sacred pipe with the Cheyenne Keeper of the Arrows been depicted. I believe it was depicted in Son of the Morning Star, but what others?
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Post by fred on Jan 18, 2011 10:02:46 GMT -6
I do not know of any others, but I believe you are correct about Son of the Morning Star. I saw it someplace and I think that was it; I do not recall anyplace else. Is it factual or just another pipe-dream?
[Sorry... I just just noticed that.]
Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on Jan 31, 2011 12:31:57 GMT -6
I am currently researching Custer's 1869 expedition to the Cheyenne village on Sweetwater Creek in the Texas Panhandle. I would like to know, in what movies has the event of Custer smoking the sacred pipe with the Cheyenne Keeper of the Arrows been depicted. I believe it was depicted in Son of the Morning Star, but what others? WY Man, the problem is that Custer movies have concentrated on his exploits in the Northern Plains and ending up at the LBH. The following are all typical:- 1941 They Died With Their Boots On 1951 Warpath 1952 Bugles in the Afternoon 1954 Sitting Bull 1965 The Great Sioux Massacre (A virtual remake of Sitting Bull) 1968 Custer of the West 1970 Little Big Man TV Mini Series or made for TV Movies: 1991 Son of the Morning Star 1996 Crazy Horse There was a TV Series between 1955 and 1963 called "Cheyenne - The Broken Pledge" with Whit Bissell as Custer. It was put out by ABC/Warner Bros and as the title suggests, may well have included the Sweetwater incident, but whether it is still possible I have no idea. Good luck. Hunk
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Post by bc on Feb 1, 2011 12:23:22 GMT -6
Hunk, I don't recall an 8 year series on Custer named Cheyenne - the Broken Pledge. There was the series Cheyenne with Clint Walker as Cheyenne Bodie, a half breed former scout who roams the west finding a new adventure every week. There may have been one episode dealing with Custer which is what you are referring to. Cheyenne reruns are on the Encore Westerns channel almost daily. They have also been running Son of the Morning Star about once every couple weeks. I keep watching and the ending is still the same, Custer gets killed. There was another tv series that some might say is about Custer, called F Troop.
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on Feb 1, 2011 13:43:12 GMT -6
Hunk, I don't recall an 8 year series on Custer named Cheyenne - the Broken Pledge. There was the series Cheyenne with Clint Walker as Cheyenne Bodie, a half breed former scout who roams the west finding a new adventure every week. There may have been one episode dealing with Custer which is what you are referring to. Cheyenne reruns are on the Encore Westerns channel almost daily. They have also been running Son of the Morning Star about once every couple weeks. I keep watching and the ending is still the same, Custer gets killed. There was another tv series that some might say is about Custer, called F Troop. bc bc, the series you mention is the one I was referring to. It ran for 107 episodes from September 1955 to December 1962, though the final episode was not shown in some areas until January 1963. I did not however, explain myself well. Episode 20 in Season 2 was called "Broken Pledge" and having looked further into that episode I find that it did not cover the Sweetwater incident, but a promise to Sitting Bull which was not kept. So it will not be any use WY Man, sorry. Thanks also for the F Troop reference, bc. A 1967 episode called "Old Iron Pants" drew that name from the character Mrs. Alishard in "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon", presumably because "Old Hard Arse" was too indelicate for TV in the 1960's. Yep, no matter how many Custer movies ot TV dramas one sees, he awlays gets killed in the end. You'd think he'd learn! Of course, he does survive in "The Court Martial of George Armstrong Custer" but is mentally deranged. Some would say he was in that condition heading to the LBH, but hey, enough about the RCOI. Hunk
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Post by bc on Feb 1, 2011 14:23:03 GMT -6
Of course, he does survive in "The Court Martial of George Armstrong Custer" but is mentally deranged. Some would say he was in that condition heading to the LBH, but hey, enough about the RCOI. Hunk I think Little Big Man continues the mentally deranged Custer to the LBH. Wasn't that the Richard Mulligan portrayal? But then, Custer never would have made general and command of the 7th but for the screwup on the orders by the 2 clerks in They Died with their Boots on. And for Wy Man, it is in the movie Son of the Morning Star. It has the narration by Kate Bighead as it happens and she talks about wiping his boots and holding him to his promise. I would assume it is in the book as well. Too bad movies and books don't always relate the truth. bc
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on Feb 1, 2011 15:23:08 GMT -6
1) I think Little Big Man continues the mentally deranged Custer to the LBH. Wasn't that the Richard Mulligan portrayal? 2) But then, Custer never would have made general and command of the 7th but for the screwup on the orders by the 2 clerks in They Died with their Boots on. 3) And for Wy Man, it is in the movie Son of the Morning Star. It has the narration by Kate Bighead as it happens and she talks about wiping his boots and holding him to his promise. 4) I would assume it is in the book as well. Too bad movies and books don't always relate the truth. bc 1) Yes, and it was. 2) The same two clerks who presumably had Custer out of the army at the end of the CW in the same movie. 3) On the money. 4) Now I am truly disillusioned.
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