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Post by tubman13 on Mar 11, 2015 18:11:53 GMT -6
Tasty.
Regards, Tom
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Post by herosrest on Mar 11, 2015 18:26:05 GMT -6
Hmmmm........... except for the worms.
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Post by herosrest on Dec 6, 2015 18:29:32 GMT -6
No doubt you'd like to talk about anything rather than defend what you've already posted. Custer ordered the regiment to be ready to go at 8AM, something distinct from ordering it to advance at that time. DucemusCould it just be, that Reno was so stupified after breakfast, that he led the regiment forward? 'coc that never got sorted out at RCoI, just fudged over by Gerrard. The Regiment will advance! Who bloody well ordered that!! Fine question............ who had authority to order an advance. Go on..... fall off a log.
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Post by AZ Ranger on Dec 7, 2015 6:01:00 GMT -6
Tom Custer
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Post by herosrest on Dec 8, 2015 0:49:42 GMT -6
DucemusAnd we know this how? If Gerard is believed, Tom Custer caught his brothers wrath for the command moving but that didn't and doesn't mean it was done by the Captain's command. It means Custer was tee'd off at his brother because the command had moved. According to Gerrard, that is. Reno and Benteen appear simply to have woken or just simply discovered the entire organisation surrounding them had packed up and moved off.... very quietly. Gerrard's information does not indicate that T.W. Custer ordered an advance. I assume this is the reason that students assume or assign him ADC status...... but unless instructed by order to move the regiment, he would not do it. Would he. So Gerrard got the wrong end of a pointy stick? I mean, Benteen didn't know what was going on around him? Reno didn't either? Ahem! They had orderlies, didn't they. 600 men whom they are responsible for, get up, march in twelve companies, with scouts and pack train and they know nothing about it. Reno's disowned official report, of the battle - The regiment leflt the camp at the mouth of the Rosebud River, after passing in review before the department commander, under command of Bvt. Maj. Gen. G. A. Custer, lieutenant-colonel, on the afternoon of the 22nd day of June, and marched up the Rosebud 12 miles and encamped; 23rd, marched up the Rosebud, passing many old Indian camps, and following a very large pole-trail, but not fresh, making 33 miles; 24th, the march was continued up the Rosebud, the trail and signs freshening with every mile, until we had made 28 miles, and we then encamped and waited for information from the scouts. At 9:25 p.m. Custer called the officers together and informed us that beyond a doubt the village was in the valley of the Little Big Horn, and in order to reach it it was necessary to cross the divide between the Rosebud and the Little Big Horn, and it would be impossible to do so in the day-time without discovering our march to the Indians; that we would prepare to march at 11 p.m. This was done, the line of march turning from the Rosebud to the right up one of its branches which headed near the summit of the divide. About 2 a.m. on the 25th the scouts told him that he could not cross the divide before daylight. We then made coffee and rested for three hours, at the expiration of which time the march was resumed, the divide crossed, and about 8 a.m. the command was in the valley of one of the branches of the Little Big Horn. By this time Indians had been seen and it was certain that we could not suprise them, and it was determined to move at once to the attack. Previous to this, no division of the regiment had been made since the order had been issued on the Yellowstone annuling wing and battalion organizations, but Custer informed me that he would assign commands on the march.This arrees entirely with Benteen's comments about the morning marching in his early evidence. It was actualy impossible for Reno not to know what was going on. He was there and no one nedded to report to him, what he reported in his report about the regiment marching. Of course, Whittaker based his time and motion analysis on this data - the official report of 7th Cavalry by Reno, which Whittaker then used to expose certain failings as he saw them. No mention from Reno of a confused and unauthorised departure by the command. I suppose an alternative is that Reno really simply had not a clue what was going on but why and how could that happen - he had people assigned to him, to ensure that precisely that, did not happen. I know i've obviously missed something with this....
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Post by AZ Ranger on Dec 8, 2015 6:27:41 GMT -6
HR
I think Reno had particular assignment and you must think he did. When moving out Custer asked the company commanders to report to him directly when they were ready to move. Benteen reported first. Where do you see Reno in this process?
I don't think he has a command until Custer gives him one. The wing structure was dissolved and the battalions were organized. Reno had three companies at that time.
Regards
AZ Ranger
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Post by herosrest on Oct 20, 2019 5:19:05 GMT -6
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