Post by ephriam on Jul 13, 2008 9:09:14 GMT -6
Hardorff, in his book Lakota Recollections of the Custer Fight (pp. 187-192) publishes the LBH account of Julia Face, in the form of answers to a survey given by Sewell Weston. It is also available online at: www.astonisher.com/archives/museum/julia_face_little_big_horn.html
Hardorff however is incorrect in identifying her as an Oglala and as the daughter of a Oglala war leader named Face.
When asked about her tribal affliations in 1900, she said she was Brule, as were both her mother and father (but their names are not given). She married Thunder Hawk about 1875 and was at the Spotted Tail Agency until their family left to attend the sundance in the summer of 1876, thereby getting swept up into the events of that summer, including the Little Bighorn. I do agree with Hardorff that her husband is probably the same Thunder Hawk mentioned in the Shaw interview with Ricker (published in The Settler and Solider Interivews of Elis S. Ricker (vol. 2 p. 309).
After Thunder Hawk committed suicide, probably in the 1890s, she remarried to a Brule named Jumps Off about 1898. Then, about 1907, she married for a third time to Charles Face. I suspect that Hardorff assumed Face was her maiden name and speculated she was the daughter of the warrior Face because of the same name (but it was a moderately common name among the Lakota.) Our only indication about an Oglala affiliation is her answer to one of the questions on the survey, asking which tribe she was with at the time of the battle: she said Oglala. Does this mean that she and her Brule husband were camped with the Oglala at LBH?
Anway, when Weston did his interview with her in 1909, her married name was Julia Face. A few times in later census records, she is recorded as Julia Thunder Hawk Face.
Julia was photographed by Masters in 1936; and she is listed in the 1937 Rosebud census, the last one available. I do not know when she passed away, but obviously after 1937.
Anyone have any additional information on Julia Face?
ephriam
Hardorff however is incorrect in identifying her as an Oglala and as the daughter of a Oglala war leader named Face.
When asked about her tribal affliations in 1900, she said she was Brule, as were both her mother and father (but their names are not given). She married Thunder Hawk about 1875 and was at the Spotted Tail Agency until their family left to attend the sundance in the summer of 1876, thereby getting swept up into the events of that summer, including the Little Bighorn. I do agree with Hardorff that her husband is probably the same Thunder Hawk mentioned in the Shaw interview with Ricker (published in The Settler and Solider Interivews of Elis S. Ricker (vol. 2 p. 309).
After Thunder Hawk committed suicide, probably in the 1890s, she remarried to a Brule named Jumps Off about 1898. Then, about 1907, she married for a third time to Charles Face. I suspect that Hardorff assumed Face was her maiden name and speculated she was the daughter of the warrior Face because of the same name (but it was a moderately common name among the Lakota.) Our only indication about an Oglala affiliation is her answer to one of the questions on the survey, asking which tribe she was with at the time of the battle: she said Oglala. Does this mean that she and her Brule husband were camped with the Oglala at LBH?
Anway, when Weston did his interview with her in 1909, her married name was Julia Face. A few times in later census records, she is recorded as Julia Thunder Hawk Face.
Julia was photographed by Masters in 1936; and she is listed in the 1937 Rosebud census, the last one available. I do not know when she passed away, but obviously after 1937.
Anyone have any additional information on Julia Face?
ephriam
