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Post by shan on Nov 14, 2007 15:37:12 GMT -6
Mike, I tried to open the article of yours you posted, but it was very scrambelled with only the odd word discernable, any ideas? I'm using a mac, do I have to do something to change the lanquage so that a mac can read it? Shan
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Post by fred on Nov 14, 2007 15:45:44 GMT -6
Shan--
Same here. I use a Mac, as well. Same gobbledy-gook.
Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by bc on Nov 14, 2007 17:31:56 GMT -6
Mike, I can't open it with Windows either.
Mcaryf, I always figured the river could move over some in a hundred years, but I didn't expect a hill to be topped. That changes the way I have been visualizing things. Also, the I troop location I am thinking of is on the east side of the ridge where the markers are lined up in a row pointing towards Calhoun hill with a separation between that suggests to me is a skirmish line and assuming that the markers are close to where the bodies fell. Seems like NPS materials ID these markers as I troop. They are not in a protective circle however so do you believe those markers may not be I troop and/or that some of I troop were on LSH at the monument with the protective circle). I don't recall right now just where Keough was found so you may have to enlighten me on that. I will probably never figure out just where Troy was exactly killed. I have been tracing relatives in the civil war and after reading all the battle reports in the OR, I bet I could go to the battle of Stone's River site and pinpoint within a 100 feet of where he was killed.
I will have to dig around to find the old photo of LSH taken in 1877. My recollection is that the markers and horse bones were all down slope a little. Memory tells me there were horse bones in among the bodies and possibly on further down slope. I never thought about it till now, but the position of the horse bones on LSH in the picture may tell us a lot. The horses could have been killed by troopers to fire from behind, and/or the horses were killed by the NAs as they they were being held in the rear by the holders, and/or horse bones among the soldiers may suggest they were mounted or holding their own horse and all killed in the last hail of bullets and arrows. I suppose it could be any one or all of the above. If anyone knows of those burial photos being online let me know. Also, if Fred has a last stand hill thread here, I will try to cut and paste some of this over there when I get time.
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Post by fred on Nov 14, 2007 18:29:03 GMT -6
"bc"--
Yes, I am going to add a couple of new threads, with pictures, in the next day or two. We will eventually get to Last Stand Hill and when we do, I will post some notes describing how and where the bodies were found. Just give me a few days to work out how I want to do this.
Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by fred on Nov 14, 2007 19:19:29 GMT -6
Just to address a couple of questions about Last Stand Hill-- and I know this is premature-- but it might help as we move along. These are from Walter Camp interviews, and are in the Hammer/Camp book, Custer in 76. The bracketed numbers refer to the pages in the book:
SGT Daniel Kanipe (C)— “Asked Knipe if ridge where monument now is was so level and wide… Says no, say was narrower and Custer laid on very peak of it.” [95, footnote 15]
2LT Charles F. Roe (F/2 Cavalry)— Roe said the [Custer] ridge was level, originally, not rising to a peak. [250] No grading had been done by 1878.
2LT Richard E. Thompson (Terry’s Acting Commissary of Subsistence)— The ridge ended in a round top, higher than the rest of the ridge (referring to Custer Hill being higher than the adjoining ridges).
Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by mcaryf on Nov 15, 2007 16:52:50 GMT -6
Dear All
I regret I am no great expert on HTML and any interface to Macs. However, if you PM me your email address I will send you the article in WORD format.
Unfortunately I am going on vacation for two weeks from Saturday so may not be able to do it until my return.
In the context of my vacation, Fred I have some theories as you know regarding events on Reno Hill. I think I would prefer not to post those until I am around to defend/explain them so if you get to 4.20pm whilst I am away that will explain my silence!
Regards
Mike
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Post by fred on Nov 15, 2007 19:45:59 GMT -6
Mike--
If you put it in "rich text format" ("rtf") most all computers should be able to open it. Anyway, I'll PM by e-mail address to you.
I will eventually get to Reno Hill-- maybe even before you leave.
Enjoy your vacation and once in a while give us a thought. I'll be struggling down here in this 80 degree heat with that darned breeze blowing in from the Gulf of Mexico. It's really frustrating because every now and then it blows a cloud across the blue sky. Oh, well... the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune strike everyone once in a while.
Best wishes, Fred.
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