Kiowa/Comanche

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The link is to a document on Kiowa/Comanche depredations published May 16, 1870.

freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~familyinformation/HOR_41-2_MiscDoc_139.pdf

Gordie, you will like this one.

CSS, pay attention from the bottom of page 6 and on through and including page 8. Perhaps you will then understand why the Kiowa & Comanche were advocating the notion that Jesse Leavenworth was stealing their annuities. I am not saying that he was totally innocent as I haven't done enough research to determine the truth of that matter; however I am saying that the tribes had enough reasons to want to get rid of him that to take everything they said as "gospel" is to stick your head in the sand and cherry-pick quotes.

Billy

EDIT: The source information is as follows:

United States Serial Set
41st Congress, 2d Session
House of Representatives Miscellaneous Document 139

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I modified the original post to include the source information.

Sorry,

Billy

P.S. Now that I know the dates, I will look into the Secretary of Interior's Letters Received as well as the Letter-Books for the Bureau of Indian Affairs to find the original Leavenworth report (the Congressional Printer was not always that careful when proof-reading has been my experiences.)

Billy

[elisabeth]

Billy, great stuff as always.

Just out of curiosity -- what's the "charge" against Hesselberger? Any idea? I know he was accused of graft in connection with building Fort Dodge, but it's hard to see what Mrs. Box could be supposed to know about that; a charge that she was in a position to refute must surely have been something different.

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elisabeth said:

Billy, great stuff as always.

Just out of curiosity -- what's the "charge" against Hesselberger? Any idea? I know he was accused of graft in connection with building Fort Dodge, but it's hard to see what Mrs. Box could be supposed to know about that; a charge that she was in a position to refute must surely have been something different.

Elisabeth, I think I have run into that charge in my earlier readings of the Box ransom payment. Unfortunately I have completely forgotten the details. I will dig into my papers and see if I can find anything. Now having said that, something about appropriating Indian annuity goods and selling them to a trader comes to mind. The charges of the event I remember were that the proceeds went to the seller when in actuality they were going to the former hostages. Whether that is the same charge leveled against Hesselberger or another event, I can't remember.

Billy

[elisabeth]

Billy, that does sound reasonable -- and exactly the sort of thing Mrs. Box might be asked about.

Wonder what the truth of it all is: whether Hesselberger was indeed a crook of the first water, or just an innocent who fell foul of the many greater crooks infesting the Plains at the time. It'd be most interesting to get a better feel for some of these people. Tappan, for instance, keeps popping up all over the place ... and Rath ... and the deeply dodgy Bogy ...

Am currently reading the new Michno, A Fate Worse than Death, so maybe more will emerge on these figures as I go on. (So far I'm still in the 1830s.) Fascinating stuff.

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Zepko Eta (Big Bow) - Kiowa - 1867


Woman's Heart - Kiowa - 1867


Mamay-Day-Tey (Sitting In The Saddle, adopted son of Lone Wolf) - Kiowa - 1867


Mamay-Day-Tey (Sitting In The Saddle, adopted son of Lone Wolf) - Kiowa - 1867


Kicking Bird - Kiowa - 1868


Trotting Wolf and wife - Kiowa - no date


Satanta (White Bear) - Kiowa - 1870


Satanta (White Bear) - Kiowa - no date


Kicking Bird - Kiowa - 1870


Lone Wolf - Kiowa - 1870


Kiowa women - circa 1870


Eonah-pah (Trailing The Enemy) with wife - Kiowa - 1870


Stumbling Bear - Kiowa - 1870


Big Tree - Kiowa - 1870


Big Tree - Kiowa - no date


Big Tree's sister - Kiowa - 1870


Satank (Sitting Bear) - Kiowa - no date


White Horse - Kiowa - 1870


Kiowa men - no date


Young Woman - Kiowa - no date


Pai-Talyi (aka Son Of The Sun, aka Sun Boy) Kiowa - 1872


Gui-Kati (Sleeping Wolf) and wife - Kiowa - 1872


Guipago (Lone Wolf) - Kiowa - 1872


Satanta (White Bear) - Kiowa - no date


Zepko Eta (Big Bow) and other Kiowa men - 1880


Kiowa man - circa 1890


Running Horse - Kiowa - circa 1890


Mopa (son of Wooden Lance) - Kiowa - 1891


Inali - Kiowa - 1892


Mali, Johnny Zontom, Aisimi, unidentified girl - Kiowa - 1892


Do-Pe, unidentified girl - Kiowa - 1892


Ongotoya (Solitary Traveler) and son - Kiowa - 1892


Children of Ongotoya (Solitary Traveler) - Kiowa - 1892


Kiowa girl - 1892


Haumpy - Kiowa - 1892


Hodetaide - Kiowa - 1892


George Mopope - Kiowa - 1892


Kiowa men - 1892


Apiatan (Wooden Lance) - Kiowa - 1892


Zepko Eta (Big Bow) - Kiowa - 1892


Zepko Eta (Big Bow) - Kiowa - 1893


Tsendon (Horse Hunter) - Kiowa - 1893


Tsendon (Horse Hunter) with wife and sons - Kiowa - 1893


Aisima (Tipi Track Woman) - Kiowa - 1893


Kiowa woman and children - 1893


Apiatan (Wooden Lance) - Kiowa - 1894


Tonhadal (Broken Leg, aka Mrs. Laura Pedrick) - Kiowa - 1898


Tonhadel (Broken Leg, aka Mrs. Laura Pedrick) - 1898


Ah-Keah-Boat (Two Hatchet, aka Jim Two Hatchet) - Kiowa - 1898


Ah-Keah-Boat (Two Hatchet, aka Jim Two Hatchet) - Kiowa - 1898


Kiowa man - 1898


Kau-Lay-Ty - Kiowa - 1898


Kiowa man - 1898


Kiowa sisters - 1900


Kiowa girls - no date


White Horse; Saun-tay; Ah-Kea-Boat (Two Hatchet); Pau-tay; Tan-gudle; Gou-say (aka Ida Hummingbird Lonewolf); Lizzie Woodard; Yea-qya-taup (aka Mary Buffalo); and Bo-lo (wife of Two Hatchet) - Kiowa - 1905


Kiowa couple - 1910


Emhaua (Rescuer) and wife - Kiowa - 1913
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Running Bird - Kiowa - 1913

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Comanche woman – 1868


Nokoney – Comanche – 1870


Buffalo Hump II – Comanche - 1872


Timber Bluff – Comanche – 1872


The Milky Way – Comanche – 1872


Wife of The Milky Way – Comanche – 1872


Silver Broach – Comanche – 1872


Wife of Silver Broach – Comanche – 1872


He Goat – Comanche – 1872


wife of He Goat – Comanche – 1872


Chewing Elk – Comanche – 1872


Chi-wek-kiethe, Cha-wa-ke (aka Looking For Something Good) - Comanche - 1874


Comanche men - no date


Little Chief - Comanche - no date


Quanah Parker - Comanche - no date


Quanah Parker - Comanche - 1880


Quanah Parker – Comanche – 1890


L-R: Charles Ohetant (Kiowa), Ako (Comanche), Watchymamsookwat (Comanche) - 1890


Comanche man – 1891


Quassyah (Eagle Tail Feather) - Comanche – 1891


Comanche man – 1891


Comanche men – 1891


Ako - Comanche – 1892


Quanah Parker – Comanche – 1892


Quanah Parker and three wives – Comanche – 1892


Quanah Parker and one wife – Comanche – 1892


children of Quanah Parker – Comanche – 1892


Comanche men – 1892


Frank Moetah, and two other Comanche men – 1892


Comanche women – 1892


Comanche men and women – 1892


White Wolf – Comanche – 1894


Hot Coffee – Comanche – 1894


Big Looking Glass – Comanche – 1894


Post Oak Jim (on right), and his brother – Comanche – 1895


Comanche man – 1895


Comanche couple – 1895


Comanche man – 1898


Comanche man – 1898


Comanche man – 1900


Tah-Cha-Chi (aka Timbo, aka Hairless) - Comanche - no date


Tah-Cha-Chi (aka Timbo, aka Hairless) - Comanche - no date


Comanche group – 1905


Betty Kerchee - Comanche - no date


Quanah Parker (with 3 wives, a son and a baby) - Comanche - 1905


Comanche group - no date


Oscar Yellow Wolf - Comanche - no date


Wife of Oscar Yellow Wolf - Comanche - no date


Pebo - Comanche - no date


Andrew Perd-a-sof-py - Comanche - no date


Millet and Quasiah - Comanche - no date


Ti-su-yo - Comanche - 1910


Peets-Nah - Comanche - 1910


Comanche man - 1910


Comanche men - 1910


Nau-Nooh - Comanche - 1910


Tenikwa – Comanche – 1919


Albert Atocni – Comanche – 1926


Albert Atocni – Comanche – 1926


Tuas-ye-ah, Quannah Parker's granddaughter, Alberta Clark, and Tsatoke (aka Hunting Horse) - Comanche - 1926


Topay and Tonicy (wives of Quanah Parker) - Comanche - 1926


Quah-se-yah - Comanche - 1926


Comanche and Kiowa women - no date


Comanche and Kiowa women - no date


Donald Big Cow and wife - Comanche - no date


Comanche group - no date


Comanche group - no date


Comanche women - no date


Comanche women - 1945