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Post by Dietmar on Feb 5, 2007 16:21:49 GMT -6
If you are interested into political histories of Native American tribes this is a wonderful website with very much information about the Navajo leaders: www.lapahie.com/Navajo_Leaders.cfmI have spend some time there, I hope you like it, too. Dietmar
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Post by charlie on Feb 6, 2007 7:37:03 GMT -6
Very interesting site, but very little images of the chiefs, unfortunately...Photos of famous Navajo's chiefs are very rare.
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Post by Dietmar on Feb 6, 2007 9:35:53 GMT -6
There are some, though not many. Navajo delegation Manuelito & wife Mariano Narbona Primero Ganado Mucho (Much Cattle) Cabra Negra Captain Cayatanita, brother of Manuelito
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Post by Tricia on Feb 6, 2007 12:19:16 GMT -6
And an FYI:
They do have a long article about my great-grandfather, Chee Dodge! And in the article is a photo of him and my shi'i, Thomas Henry Dodge, who was born in 1900, not 1899--as they report. I might have some other images of our chiefs but due to my husband's hospitalisation, I haven't the time to scan.
I always thought "Ganado Mucho" sounded like a bad Beatles' song!
Regards, Leyton McLean
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Post by harpskiddie on Feb 6, 2007 12:52:48 GMT -6
Leyton:
You were partly correct, just mistaken about the name. Narbona Primero translates as "You Know My Name. Look Up The Number."
I ain't given much to praying. I figure He has bailed me out enough over the years, and is probably tired of me promising to do this or that, if He'll just get me out of this or that. But, your spouse is in my prayers, and I'm sure in others' as well.
All the best for you both.............................
Gordie
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Post by charlie on Feb 7, 2007 8:08:58 GMT -6
Dietmar: as always, GREAT IMAGES!!! I never see before. I only know images of chiefs Manuelito and Barboncito, never see the others. Do you have the description of the Delegation's photo? I also never see images of Delgadito and Armjio, other famous Navajo. This tribe is in my heart since my youth, when i read the most famous western's strip in Italy: TEX WILLER. This personage, still printed now after 45 years, always was friend of Navajo Tribe and he married a Navajo girl, Lilith, that gave him a son, Kit. I still remember all that (and i'm older than Tex Willer...). Still: GREAT PHOTOS. Do you now the photographer?
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Post by Dietmar on Feb 7, 2007 10:11:29 GMT -6
Charlie, Tex Willer, mmmh, he is totally unknown in Germany, I think. We have our Apache Chief Winnetou and Old Shatterhand, you know... Surprisingly I was not so much into Karl May´s writings as a child, but I loved the novels of Liselotte Welskopf-Henrich about a young Lakota named Tokei-Ihto The last four photos were made by Charles Milton Bell, Mariano was photographed by Ben Wittick, I am not sure about the others... the group photo by Alexander Gardner? or Bell again?? Best wishes Dietmar
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Post by grahamew on Feb 8, 2007 14:22:31 GMT -6
What exactly are the men wearing on their legs? Cabra Negra seems to be wearing 3/4 length cotton drawstring trousers; presumably the breechclout is worn under the trousers, unlike the majority of Apache who continued to wear their breechclouts outside the loose cotton pants. What about the others? Are they tight trousers or leggings? Are they boots or moccasins or some kind of knee to ankle wrap around device worn over the bottom of the pants/leggings and over the footwear?
The hide shirt is interesting because there are a few ledger drawings of Southern Plains tribes fighting Navajos who are dressed in buckskin shirts and you don't see many in the photos.
The Bell photos are from late 70s/early 80s?
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Post by Dietmar on Feb 8, 2007 14:43:21 GMT -6
Now I have the identifications of the group photo by Charles Milton Bell: A group of Navajos with Agent Arny 1874front row, from left: Catero Mucho, Mariani, Juanita (wife of Manuelito), Manuelito (head chief), Manuelito Segundo (son of Manuelito), Tiene-su-seback row, f.l.: "Wild" Hank Sharp, Canada Micho, Barbas Bueros, Governor Arny (indian agent), Kentucky Mountain Bill, Cabra Negra, Caystanita, Narbona Primera, Jesus Alviso (Navajo captive)
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Post by Dietmar on Feb 8, 2007 14:48:08 GMT -6
I can´t answer your questions, Grahame, but I think this clothing style must have been very popular in this part of the Southwest. I believe I have seen similar trousers and boots in photographs of Zuni and perhaps other tribes.
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Post by grahamew on Feb 9, 2007 1:29:58 GMT -6
Navaho or Navajo? Years ago I read that it's really Navaho but Spanish/Mexican settlers/soldiers thought the name derived from a Spanish word; hence, Navajo.
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Post by grahamew on Feb 9, 2007 6:56:20 GMT -6
Here's "Navajo Jack" from the SIRIS collection. These look like leggings with a breechclout
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