"wild, I await"

[d o harris]

This is the first thread I have started. I do not recall losing my virginity but it must have been something like this. Very disappointing. Wild promised muich, but has delivered nothing.

This is the perfect place for him to deliver his calumnies. I wait, but not at all breathlessly.

Meanwhile, Galway remains without pure water.

[wild]

I do not recall losing my virginity but it must have been something like this. Very disappointing.
Doesn't say much for American women and even less for the gallantry of American men.....but to the matter in hand the US shield

Let us be serious. All of Western Europe, including Ireland, cannot and will not survive without the United States. You, sir, depend absolutely on our military shield.
Are you looking for an expression of gratitude,should I be shocked and awed.Perhaps it's approval you are seeking?Then I must refer you to the beneficiaries of the American way in South East Asia,the Middle East and South America.
Shield is a questionable term.It supposes that those states behind it enjoy a measure of safety.The USSR also had a shield ,it rejoyced in the more accurate name of Iron Curtain.Let's take three countries behind this shield---Cuba,Chile and Nicaragua and see how they fared.Attempted invasion,overthrow of democratic government,arming and training of terrorists,mining of harbors,embargoes.A bit like the policeman who come home at night and beats the crap out of his own family.
All states are pragmatic ,the interests of its citizens are paramount.Business is business ---the Swiss rip off the Holocaust jews,the Swedes allow German troop trains to pass through their country to attack Norway the Irish feed Saddams army.A few states the US among them spices up it's pragmatism with violence.The US is a predator nation.No other state since WW 2 has attacked more countries than the US.Israel comes a close second but they limit their aggression to the same 4/5 victims.
That Ireland falls within it's sphere of influence owes more to geographical chance than to some benign protection scheme of the US's.Ireland is a nonaligned country owing no alligence to any military block.Our defence forces deploy only at the request of the UN and liaise with European countries on defence matters.
We owe our security and existance as an independent state to our membership of the European community of states and the UN.
The US is the main influence on the world stage.That influence is one of violence.It does its business backed up by the most powerful military in the world.It's armaments industry is worth billions.It has a vested interest in violence.
Far from being a protection your much lauded shield is a source of instability and provocation.
Regards

[Diane Merkel]

[wild]

It once ment something Diane.A new begining,freedom,respect for human dignity and life an oppurtunity for a man to achieve his full potential.They use it now to cover a captives face during water boarding---Though the Bush administration has never formally acknowledged its use, Vice President Dick Cheney told an interviewer that he did not believe "a dunk in water" to be a form of torture but rather a "very important tool" for use in interrogations
Rgards

[Diane Merkel]

So you think our flag represents torture? What does your flag represent, wild?

• the July 1972 bombing spree known as Bloody Friday, in which downtown Belfast was rocked by twenty-two bombs in seventy-five minutes, leaving nine dead and 130 injured;
  
  
• the 1979 assassination of Lord Mountbatten, Queen Elizabeth II’s uncle;
  
  
• the 1984 bombing of a Brighton hotel where then British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and her cabinet were meeting, which wounded several British officials and killed four other Britons;
  
  
• a 1993 car bombing in London’s financial district that killed one person and caused $1 billion of damage;
  
  
• mortar attacks on the British prime minister’s 10 Downing Street residence and London’s Heathrow Airport in the early 1990s; and
  
  
• high-profile bombings of civilian targets, including pubs and subway stations, in Northern Ireland and mainland Britain throughout the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s.
  

Do not condemn an entire nation of people based upon the actions of a few, especially when your people have provided sanctuary to terrorists for decades.

[wild]

First off Diane I note the gallant doh has left the women to uphold America's honor.
The list of attacks you have provided were carried out by a British organisation.With the exception of one all attacks occured in Britian.The republic of Ireland has not offered sanctuary to armed organisations and members of our security forces have given their lives to ensure there was no safe haven for such organisations.

So you think our flag represents torture?
It is the flag of a state which now indulges in torture.It is the flag of a warmongering state both directly and indirectly by being by far the greatest supplier of arms to turbulent regions and 3rd world countries.
The US facilitates permanant conflict.It has a vested interest in armed conflict.It's multi million dollar armamants industry lives off conflict.

Do not condemn an entire nation of people based upon the actions of a few
Every citizen of the US acquiesces in its wars of aggression.Every citizen of your democracy bestowes on the president the authority to wage wars of aggression.You maintain forces dedicated and trained for one purpose only and that is the invasion of other countries.Every citizen of your country is part of that system which brings death and destruction to others.
Regards

[Diane Merkel]

wild, you were addressing me, so it was not necessary for anyone else to respond. I would guess that most have had their fill of you -- as I did when you first appeared -- and find debating you as useless as debating CSS.

What British organization assassinated Lord Mountbatten? I'm sure the Royals would love to know. Your dismissal of the incidents I listed is laughable.

Your attacks against the US are too shallow to bother me. If you don't like us, get off the board.

[wild]

Diane
The thread was set up by doh and I was invited to contribute.It also has an introduction inviting participants to "go for it"without fear of chastisement from the moderator.I have not indulged in any personal abuse of contributers nor have I posted [to my knowledge]any blatent untruths.
At this point in time the US is conscience-stricken engaged as it is in a repeat of the disasterious Vietnam adventure.Your anger is not with me but with having a mirror held up to the work of the fools who have cost the US so many young lives and it's reputation.

What British organization assassinated Lord Mountbatten?The provisional IRA.An organisation which grew out of the nationalist community in Ulster and was outlawed in the Republic.

Your dismissal of the incidents I listed is laughable.
You must understand that the conflict in Ulster was an internal matter concerning only the British.

Your attacks against the US are too shallow to bother meAh but they do bother you Diane.All decent Americans must be bothered by what those people are doing in your name,

If you don't like us, get off the board
I love the sinner but the sin.
Best Regards

[Diane Merkel]

Sorry to disappoint you, wild, but your opinions of my country, its leadership, and its people do not bother me at all.

[wild]

The triumph of pride over conscience?
I have to concede the point to you Diane, the bothering of America's conscience has withstood the full gamut of savagery down the years.
But hold fast is there wavering in the ranks? There is much talk of supporting the troops if not the Bushites."We must support the troops in time of war".You must give your sons and daughters over to him for another year to be fed into his patriot meat grinder.In another year there will be another thousand names to be carved on the memorial wall No memoial wall for the Iraqis though.What was the photograph which haunts America fom the Vietnam war----a little girl burned and running from a napalm attack?There was one today which might just qualify for that role for Iraq.It pictured a little girl with her face sown back together.The look of bewilderment in her eyes is exactly the same as that of the little Vietnamese from 40 years ago.But don't let it bother you.
Regards

[Banned]

Let us be serious. All of Western Europe, including Ireland, cannot and will not survive without the United States. You, sir, depend absolutely on our military shield.

Of course. The USA are the light on the hill. That's why every decent human being on this planet, except hippies, losers, cowards and terrorists, should support the USA in the War on terror and should see George W. Bush as the first President since Reagan who has the guts to stand up to defend his country.

RAISE THE FLAG

[markland]

Perhaps Wild would reconsider relocating to Vermont. There seem to be some who feel the same as he.

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070604/ap_on_re_us/vermont_secession

Billy

[wild]

That's why every decent human being on this planet, except hippies, losers, cowards and terrorists, should support the USA in the War on terror and should see George W. Bush as the first President since Reagan who has the guts to stand up to defend his country.
But Regan armed the contras and the taliban.And Bush attacked the wrong country.And Bush avoided service in Vietnam which would make him a coward.Scarey?
If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?”

[Diane Merkel]

markland said:

Perhaps Wild would reconsider relocating to Vermont. There seem to be some who feel the same as he.

Too funny. Perhaps Global Warning Warming will defrost their brains.

Hey, wild -- you never answered d o's question about the water in Galway! While you are at it, why don't you explain your previous answer to me again? I didn't quite get it.

wild: The list of attacks you have provided were carried out by a British organisation.With the exception of one all attacks occured in Britian.

Description

Formed in 1969 as the clandestine armed wing of the political movement Sinn Fein, the IRA is devoted both to removing British forces from Northern Ireland and to unifying Ireland. The IRA conducted attacks until its cease-fire in 1997 and agreed to disarm as a part of the 1998 Belfast Agreement, which established the basis for peace in Northern Ireland. Dissension within the IRA over support for the Northern Ireland peace process resulted in the formation of two more radical splinter groups: Continuity IRA (CIRA), and the Real IRA (RIRA) in mid to late 1990s. The IRA, sometimes referred to as the PIRA to distinguish it from RIRA and CIRA, is organized into small, tightly-knit cells under the leadership of the Army Council.

Activities

Traditional IRA activities have included bombings, assassinations, kidnappings, punishment beatings, extortion, smuggling, and robberies. Before the cease-fire in 1997, the group had conducted bombing campaigns on various targets in Northern Ireland and Great Britain, including senior British Government officials, civilians, police, and British military targets. The group’s refusal in late 2004 to allow photographic documentation of its decommissioning process was an obstacle to progress in implementing the Belfast Agreement and stalled talks. The group previously had disposed of light, medium, and heavy weapons, ammunition, and explosives in three rounds of decommissioning. However, the IRA is believed to retain the ability to conduct paramilitary operations. The group’s extensive criminal activities reportedly provide the IRA and the political party Sinn Fein with millions of dollars each year; the IRA was implicated in two significant robberies in 2004, one involving almost $50 million.

Source: ftp.fas.org/irp/world/para/ira.htm

Ah, those cute, cuddly leprechauns have been very, very bad boys!

[Montana Bab]

wild said:

If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?”

Wild, you dear boy. You are in so much pain. We need to introduce you to Dr. Kavorkian (he's available again). He will help you OUT.

Sincerely,
Bab