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Oct 9, 2007 16:51:52 GMT -6
Post by lilkeogh on Oct 9, 2007 16:51:52 GMT -6
My name is Shannon Heibler and though I came here through strange means, I'm finding myself oddly at home.
I'm a history student at the University of Wisconsin - Madison but what's more I'm the great x4 niece of Myles Keogh! My father and I are always trying to find any and all information we can on our favorite uncle and it looks like I found another great source!
Please pardon my inevitable and unending questions. I'm just very excited about finding this forum!
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Oct 9, 2007 17:21:25 GMT -6
Post by BrokenSword on Oct 9, 2007 17:21:25 GMT -6
Welcome Shannon-
The one you want to ask is 'Elisabeth', if its Keogh she knows it!
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Oct 9, 2007 17:21:44 GMT -6
Post by fred on Oct 9, 2007 17:21:44 GMT -6
Well Shannon, welcome to Never-Never Land! And you will be delighted to find that we have, as one of our most distinguished members, quite possibly the world's foremost expert on Myles Keogh, a lady from England named Elisabeth. She is also one of the most prolific contributors to this site and her knowledge will leave you speechless.
As for myself, I am delighted and privileged to know you (such as this is), especially since you are a close relative of one of our favorite characters. (Have I just insulted you?)
It is a pleasure to know Shannon Heibler.
Very best wishes, Fred.
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Oct 9, 2007 17:25:48 GMT -6
Post by elisabeth on Oct 9, 2007 17:25:48 GMT -6
Welcome, Shannon!
A thrill for us all to have you here. As you'll find, your great-great-great-great uncle has some extremely devoted fans on this forum ... Look forward to being pestered with questions yourself!
Hah -- the two posts above were made while I was posting mine. They flatter me, of course ... but if there's anything I can tell you that you don't already know, which I doubt, of course I'll be happy to!
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Oct 9, 2007 18:25:42 GMT -6
Post by BrokenSword on Oct 9, 2007 18:25:42 GMT -6
Shannon-
There was no 'flattery' involved in our recommendation of Elisabeth as THE Keogh expert on the board. Simply the truth.. as you will soon see.
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Oct 9, 2007 19:24:59 GMT -6
Post by Diane Merkel on Oct 9, 2007 19:24:59 GMT -6
Hello, Shannon! I believe I put you together with Elisabeth many months ago, or are you a different 4xgreat niece? I vaguely remember the Wisconsin connection, something about a hotel (?) and discussing census records with Elisabeth . . . . Elisabeth, please help me and assure me I haven't totally lost my mind! In any event, we are glad you found us, Shannon! Diane
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Oct 10, 2007 0:51:39 GMT -6
Post by elisabeth on Oct 10, 2007 0:51:39 GMT -6
Diane, now you mention it, that does ring a vague bell ... and I've got a nasty feeling that whatever the question was, I wasn't able to supply the answer! So much for omniscience ...
I'll see if I can trawl back through old e-mails and find it. More information has come to light since then; maybe it'll be possible to piece together more of an answer now.
... Yes, have now found that correspondence. The bad news: I know nothing more -- yet. The good news: I'm currently waiting for my local library to track down a copy of an ancient book called Irish Pedigrees, which has loads of info on the Keogh/Kehoe family. When it turns up, who knows -- there could be plenty of stuff of interest to Shannon!
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Oct 10, 2007 10:43:13 GMT -6
Post by harpskiddie on Oct 10, 2007 10:43:13 GMT -6
Elisabeth:
Not pertinent to this thread, except as it involves the Irish God-Warrior, but is the Hayes-McCoy O'Donnell Lecture pamphlet worth having, assuming one is NOT a devoted fan but merely interested in Keogh. I have Convis, and am planning on getting Langellier et al sometime soon. Just wondered if they're enough for an overall understanding of the man's life, or if the Hayes-McCoy is a mandatory holding.
Thanks for your input,
Gordie, come saddle your horses, and call up your men. Let all the brave lads who love Scotland.........
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Oct 10, 2007 14:30:28 GMT -6
Post by elisabeth on Oct 10, 2007 14:30:28 GMT -6
Hayes-McCoy is very good, especially on the detail of his Civil War career. I'd say worth getting -- if you don't have to pay a fortune. (I don't own a copy myself, alas; had to read it in the library.) It's totally factual, however, with no attempts at character analysis beyond what's implied by the facts he delivers. A mandatory holding? Depends how interested you are. The Langellier book picks up a fair bit from him. But still, I think, worthwhile.
Convis is great as a starter. He's transcribed so many of the letters, at length, that he manages to give a really good flavour of the man -- even if his own commentary is somewhat naive at times. The Langellier-et-al book is the closest we have to a bible on him, being much more precise on chronology, background, and assorted detail. There's also some good stuff in Elizabeth Atwood Lawrence's His Very Silence Speaks: nominally about Comanche, but she does have some unique snippets about Keogh from her own collection of letters etc.
I'd say Convis and Langellier should probably be enough if all you're after is a broad picture. Hayes-McCoy is good, though: an excellent depiction of CW events outside the immediately Custer-centric area, e.g. Buford et al, so it's useful for that alone even if you're not a particular Keogh fan ...
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Oct 10, 2007 16:48:04 GMT -6
Post by harpskiddie on Oct 10, 2007 16:48:04 GMT -6
Ta.
Gordie, It done got cloudy and it started to rain - I tooted my horn for the passin' lane...........................
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Oct 10, 2007 22:57:38 GMT -6
Post by harpskiddie on Oct 10, 2007 22:57:38 GMT -6
Elisabeth:
I record several TV shows each night and watch them when I have time. I regularly watch the Inspector Lynley Mysteries, featuring one Nathaniel Parker as the wealthy Scotland Yard Inspector of the title. I am sure that you may have seen this series, which has been showing over here for some years now.
Anyway, while I was watching this latest installment, I was struck by the dark good looks of Mr. Parker, and thought: "My goodness, where have I been - it's Myles Keogh without the facial hair."
Gordie, once a marshal had a daughter - a pretty, winsome daughter, and he brought her up as best as he knew how............................................................
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Oct 11, 2007 1:55:32 GMT -6
Post by elisabeth on Oct 11, 2007 1:55:32 GMT -6
Yes, I rather like young Parker -- and now you've pointed out the resemblance, I realise why!
Nice idea.
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Oct 11, 2007 7:21:39 GMT -6
Post by crzhrs on Oct 11, 2007 7:21:39 GMT -6
Inspector Lynley Mysteries are quite good . . . in fact most of those "Mystery" shows are very good. Long on character and story w/little violence. Unlike most US cop shows.
What's that other mystery with the cop from the 50s whose father was a bad cop? The "new" cop has an affair with a French woman and then some other "bad" cops are always trying to get the "new" cop into trouble?
The "new" cop obviously has issues and the show is quite "dark"
Love those Brit shows anyways, whether there're comedy or dramas.
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Oct 11, 2007 11:23:54 GMT -6
Post by harpskiddie on Oct 11, 2007 11:23:54 GMT -6
Yeah, the British detective stories are always more genteel, and to me much better done than the American variety, where you have to REALLY suspend your sense of disbelief.
Horse, old poop, I don't recognize your synopsis of the 50s show.
Other good British shows are Frost, Midsommer Murders, the late-lamented Inspector Morse [just Morse will do] and of course the classic Sherlock Holmes series featuring the now-dead actor whose name I can't remember [not the Basil Rathbone movies].
Then there were a few Dalziel mysteries, and the poet-detective whose name I also forget. I always wanted to see Lord Peter Wimsey brought to the screen with a strict adherence to the Sayers' novels. I think that there were one or two. And the dame played by Diana Rigg.........
Gordie, I say old bean, do you know that we buried Maude yesterday? What, Maude?!? Yes. Had to. Dead, you know.........................................................................................................
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Oct 11, 2007 12:42:55 GMT -6
Post by crzhrs on Oct 11, 2007 12:42:55 GMT -6
Harps:
Finally remembered the title: Jericho (takes place in the 50s, not made inthe 50s) The character has issues and the story lines are always dark, kinda like the film noir of the 40s-50s.
A synopsis:
Jericho is a fine policeman with a tragic past. Having witnessed his father's murder, he remains unmarried and very much a loner; the woman he loved married another while he was away at war. He lives in a London swathed in infamous smog, a London on the brink of post war radical change. It's a noirish world, think LA Confidential without the LA glamour. The 50s prove to be a hip era for the ever cool Lindsay, looking good in a trilby and very reminiscent of a younger Robert Mitchum. He's a man ahead of his time – a fine copper who longs for justice without prejudice.
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