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Post by Dark Cloud on Jun 25, 2012 9:31:23 GMT -6
Between the photo and "poo," case closed.
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Post by benteen on Jun 25, 2012 9:44:21 GMT -6
benteen, I'm not convinced the guy in the rifle pit who chickened out wasn't shot by Benteen or someone else. I understand that stuff happens and is legal and probably not discussed once done. Obviously, no proof, but it's not likely a bunch of guys would stand and charge with no casualties to speak of, yet a partially hidden soldier gets it between the eyes. That's the tell, I think. Dark Cloud, Of course we will never know, but I doubt another soldier shot him. Perhaps if half of the men charging were killed and others wounded, maybe in a moment of rage someone would do it, but since they all came back there was no rage. It is more likely they would just ignore him. Chances are since everyone else on the line left, he was the only target left, whatever warriors were on that side of the field focused on him. Be Well Dan
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Post by Yan Taylor on Jun 25, 2012 9:48:07 GMT -6
Another one bites the dust, some people just give in too easily, and I was just going to send him a PM to welcome him to this hospitable and friendly site.
Never mind there may be another new recruit tomorrow, and I hope they are thick skinned and have the balls to dig in and stay.
Ian.
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Post by quincannon on Jun 25, 2012 10:03:11 GMT -6
Ian: You did. Steel must be tempered in fire to become a sword.
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Post by walsh on Jun 25, 2012 10:11:00 GMT -6
How many people have left this board over the years because of Dark Cloud? He's obviously book smart with lots of impracticable knowledge but it might be a net gain to cut your losses and give his account the axe.
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Post by Dark Cloud on Jun 25, 2012 10:23:02 GMT -6
Not a few are credited to me, primarily because they were exposed and called out, but then they wander over the other board or come back under a new UserID.
I'm sure your racist taunts will start their own tally. Meanwhile, important to point it out.
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on Jun 28, 2012 14:56:35 GMT -6
I would however suggest a career in politics for you, since you have a problem sticking to issues...and when proved wrong you like to attack peoples personal history. You must have quite a sad life. rangersmith1867, On behalf of the fair minded on these boards, I apologize unreservedly for the disgusting way you were treated when you posed your perfectly reasonable enquiry on this thread. It has been customary for newcomers to these boards to be made welcome, whatever their original entry question may have covered. Unfortunately, that practice has waned in recent times and although that true gentleman ‘benteen’ did try, both he and you were mugged by Darkcloud who has made a habit of such behavior. As you will have gathered, he is not only unashamed by his actions but is actually proud of them. That is the measure of how mean spirited he is but I am equally appalled by the cavalier attitude of other posters on this thread, who seem to see nothing wrong in his vile attack on you. Perhaps they are fooled by the weasel justifications he falls back on, but they are only meant to flatter the military men on these boards and seemingly do so. If he was an honourable man he would have apologized to you himself for his unwarranted attack on you, but because he is not, you will never see such an apology. It is a sad reflection on what sets the standards on these message boards and I am only sorry that you have had to experience it on your first and probably last visit here. I do hope you will reconsider your decision to quit posting here, but I will completely understand if you do not. Sincerely, “Hunk”Papa
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Post by Dark Cloud on Jun 28, 2012 15:57:30 GMT -6
I, too, look forward to your return so that portions of your resume you posted, but took down too late, might be discussed. Please, return.
There are those who think hunkpapa a dwarf, a coward, a pandering dolt who, like others, photographs himself with guns and books to imply a virility and learning not there. Like the courageous ranger, I take no sides, I have my opinions. Isn't that nice? See how I dissed you while at the same time shielding myself? That's what the pudgy ranger does to Bradley.
Oh, but Bradley's dead. Doesn't matter......
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Post by benteen on Jun 28, 2012 17:03:13 GMT -6
There are those who think hunkpapa a dwarf, a coward, a pandering dolt who, like others, photographs himself with guns and books to imply a virility and learning not there.. ...... Dark Cloud, I find that hard to believe. I think people look at "Hunk" as a very inteligent man who has a scholarly knowledge of military history as others do (Including Yourself) whos opinions are highly regarded, and which opinions are always given as a gentleman. You see D/C I was able to speak up for someone who I have a high respect for and not castigate anyone else. Its easy By the way I agree with you on the Supreme Court, and Justice Roberts made it a double whamy for me. Its a Mr. Daniels night. Be Well Dan
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Post by Dark Cloud on Jun 28, 2012 17:21:09 GMT -6
I hope you find it hard to believe, because I can imagine hardly anyone thinking that. That's the point. I can make up or repeat a story, repeat it while saying I don't believe it, and I've both promulgated it and hidden behind the I'm just the messenger routine. That's what the pudgy ranger does with Bradley, who's safely dead.
Ephriam explained it well, I thought.
Read pudgy ranger's posts. He took down at least one when he realized he'd be checked. Maybe more, I haven't counted.
Also, let's leave current political stuff out, agree or not.
Further, nobody but me objected to walsh's celebration of the 7th killing Indians for being inferior at Wounded Knee. Not even sainted hunkpapa.
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Post by benteen on Jun 28, 2012 17:44:31 GMT -6
I hope you find it hard to believe, because I can imagine hardly anyone thinking that. That's the point. I can make up or repeat a story, repeat it while saying I don't believe it, and I've both promulgated it and hidden behind the I'm just the messenger routine. That's what the pudgy ranger does with Bradley, who's safely dead. Also, let's leave current political stuff out, agree or not. . Dark Cloud, I completly mis-read you. You werent demeaning anyone just making a point (And a good one at that). It just flew right over my head. (Not unusual ) As to the second part, I agree completly.Should not have added my comment, anyone offended, accept my apology. Be Well Dan
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Post by quincannon on Jun 28, 2012 18:12:23 GMT -6
DC: I did not object because I did not see it. Now let me add my objection as well.
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on Jun 29, 2012 13:11:55 GMT -6
There are those who think hunkpapa a dwarf, a coward, a pandering dolt who, like others, photographs himself with guns and books to imply a virility and learning not there.. ...... Dark Cloud, I find that hard to believe. I think people look at "Hunk" as a very inteligent man who has a scholarly knowledge of military history as others do (Including Yourself) whos opinions are highly regarded, and which opinions are always given as a gentleman. You see D/C I was able to speak up for someone who I have a high respect for and not castigate anyone else. Its easy Be Well Dan Dan, Thanks for your support but please don’t concern yourself on my account as I would only be perturbed if the adverse comments on this and another thread were being made by someone I respected. As it is, the outpouring of bile and vitriol from the person in question is childish in the extreme and if he were a child it would be laughable. Bearing in mind he is supposed to be an adult, it is not in the least funny but he is more to be pitied than blamed. In fact, by his display of venom, he has endorsed far better than I could have hoped for, my summing up of his character in my post to rangersmith1867. Take care my friend. Hunk
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Post by rangersmith1867 on Jun 29, 2012 13:57:28 GMT -6
Due to the words I have read from Mr. Hunk I have decided to come back. As far as me being thick or thinned skinned...that is not even something to question on the Internet. I try and do my best to limit my exposure to people who have the issues that Dark Cloud has, my only guess is he is jealous of my past, my present, and my future.
For the record: I removed the pictures of myself, and the information about myself because they were not germane to the conversation. It is nice to see there are people who attempt to stick to the issues, rather than Dark Cloud who has such an appalling bad reading comprehension, spelling, and grammar skills...that its a wonder he can even be considered scholarly by anyone.
The fact is, I never called Bradley a coward, and I presented facts of the man and his character and even followed it up with my opinion...several times...that he is NOT a coward. I think he might have been a poor leader, but a coward...I was not there and frankly neither were you.
My experiences in West Africa and my time working for the Department of the Army has no bearing on this conversation. In fact, anyone who has been in Combat or not are entitled to the same opinions. Being in the Military does not offer you insight on historical interpretation...it does however give you insight into the mentality of someone serving in that time period. It helps that I have been doing historical interpretation for over 14 years, with various organizations, both local, state and Federal. So if you want to question that...that MIGHT be applicable to the conversation, but being shot at and shooting at people has nothing to do with events that took place on 1 August 1867.
I should have NEVER fed into your demands for my background, or fed into your vain attempt to discredit me. That was my mistake. It will not happen again.
As far as I am concerned I want to be on this board, but I want no further dealings with people who have not a single leg to stand on in a debate so they resort to personal attacks.
I am sorry things in your life have not panned out for you as well as you thought they would Dark Cloud, but that gives you no right to attack me based on your limited grasp of the English Language, and limited...if any...reading comprehension skills.
I will not send you my resume, I will not discuss my past, and I will not pander to you, or anyone else. I know what I have accomplished in my life and I honestly have nothing to prove to anyone.
If you would like Dark Cloud, you can leave the confines of your basement and travel up here on the Weekend of the 7th of July where I will be giving my presentation on the "Walks-A-Heap" life of the infantry soldier, and later in August I will give my presentation of the Hayfield Fight, in uniform, kit, and weapon. I would be happy to take your questions about the battle and answer them for you to the best of my information. However I am not giving personal talks on my History, so questions of that nature will not be responded too.
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Post by rangersmith1867 on Jun 29, 2012 14:04:45 GMT -6
To add to that, that is an open invite to anyone, I love big crowds and unfortunatly we do not get them here at the area I work in, since it is a National Recreation area everyone wants to come here and fish.
I will make a thread about this as an open invite.
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