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Post by alfuso on Dec 21, 2005 20:48:49 GMT -6
Hungerford's Red Sabbath.
I am less than 100 pages in and although he makes a good accounting of GAC as person and commander, the errors are blinding.
General Forrest was even younger than Custer -- 19 at the end of the CW.
Major Custer saved Crooke's butt at Saylor's Creek.
and Jean Lafayette was the youngest Major General at 19 (he was a few weeks shy of 21 and I don't recall Jean being one of his names)
And there was no WP Class of 1861, WP didn't consider it a class because everyone resigned so they could join up and fight in the War.
And Maria Ward Custer was GAC's step-mother...
And let's not go into spelling errors.
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Post by elisabeth on Dec 22, 2005 8:21:39 GMT -6
Is this Kershaw's 'Red Sabbath'? Or Hungerford's 'Last Ride'? If the latter -- grrrrrrr, your warning comes just too late, I've already ordered it!
There's a very detailed review of Kershaw's 'Red Sabbath' in the current edition of the CAGB journal, 'The Crow's Nest', by Francis Taunton. He picks up many errors, and disputes some of the analysis, but concludes that on the whole it's quite a useful contribution ...
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Post by alfuso on Dec 22, 2005 10:06:57 GMT -6
Oops
It's Hungerford's "Last Ride"
On an up side, he does give us a fairly balanced look at GAC the commander and person. Hits some saliant points.
But the errors are so glaring they just stop you in your tracks. I found myself muttering "But. But. Whaaa?" A lot.
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Post by crzhrs on Dec 22, 2005 12:14:33 GMT -6
For me the worse of all times is:
WHERE WAS CUSTER? (I can't even remember the author, who stated that Custer was killed by Mitch Boyer at the Ford because Boyer was p-oed that Custer treated Monesta so terribly! . . . and that Boyer had the Sioux & Crow sign a peace treaty, and it was Boyer who notified the Sioux that Custer was coming to attack the village!!!
I need a large aspirin . . .
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Post by fred on Dec 22, 2005 20:44:38 GMT -6
Linda Tripp
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Post by alfuso on Dec 23, 2005 20:28:33 GMT -6
Fred
Not funny.
And sophomoric.
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Post by El Crab on Dec 27, 2005 5:57:14 GMT -6
Custer was the youngest Brevet Major General in US Army history, right? That wouldn't count the CSA. He didn't keep the title of youngest Brigadier Genral, I want to say a young lad named Pennyworth has that distinction.
Linda Tripp never was brevetted higher than Lieutenant Colonel. And that was in the KISS Army.
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Post by alfuso on Dec 27, 2005 7:19:14 GMT -6
El Crab Custer was the youngest Brevet Major General in US Army history, right? That wouldn't count the CSA. He didn't keep the title of youngest Brigadier Genral, I want to say a young lad named Pennyworth has that distinction. Linda Tripp never was brevetted higher than Lieutenant Colonel. And that was in the KISS Army. And your point is? (The young lad was Galusha Pennypacker -- a few weeks short of his 20th or 21st birthday when given a field brevet 'cause they thought he was dying from a wound) |
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Post by El Crab on Dec 28, 2005 4:14:03 GMT -6
I don't know. I got the impression that certain "facts" were being passed off in this book, and they were incorrect. So I was opening up the discussion about one of them. The first post isn't that clear to me.
The other thing was an attempt at humor. Though I'm not even sure why Linda Tripp was ever brought up. I just have always wanted to use Linda Tripp and the KISS Army in the same sentence.
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Post by elisabeth on Dec 28, 2005 8:58:44 GMT -6
The book runs to some 400 pages, and I don't think there's ONE without some error on it. He's got what might be some quite useful stuff, in Chapter 39, with names & vital statistics of all those killed; but before the reader gets to that, he/she has become so hoarse from uttering anguished cries of "NO-O-O!!!" at every second paragraph that it's hard, to say the least, to trust its accuracy ...
To give you a flavour: we're told, firmly, that the 7th Cavalry was formed in July 1868. Custer was killed at MTF, and we even have the name of the warrior who killed him: Brave Bear. Oh, and the battle's over by 3pm. And Vic was a mare.
Awful, frankly. Just awful.
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Post by Treasuredude on Dec 28, 2005 21:03:03 GMT -6
The other thing was an attempt at humor. Though I'm not even sure why Linda Tripp was ever brought up. I just have always wanted to use Linda Tripp and the KISS Army in the same sentence. As a longtime KISS fan, I thought it was funny as hell. |
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Post by alfuso on Dec 31, 2005 11:54:03 GMT -6
The book runs to some 400 pages, and I don't think there's ONE without some error on it. He's got what might be some quite useful stuff, in Chapter 39, with names & vital statistics of all those killed; but before the reader gets to that, he/she has become so hoarse from uttering anguished cries of "NO-O-O!!!" at every second paragraph that it's hard, to say the least, to trust its accuracy ... To give you a flavour: we're told, firmly, that the 7th Cavalry was formed in July 1868. Custer was killed at MTF, and we even have the name of the warrior who killed him: Brave Bear. Oh, and the battle's over by 3pm. And Vic was a mare. Awful, frankly. Just awful. Pity of it is that the author gives a good accounting of Custer as Commander and person. He was very good when he had to be, now and then he was bad, and occasionally he was merely naughty. I like naughty Custer and I think that's the one Libbie fell in love with. alfuso |
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Post by elisabeth on Dec 31, 2005 13:14:27 GMT -6
I'm sure you're right!
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Post by fred on Dec 31, 2005 13:47:00 GMT -6
LADIES!!!
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